Nah, let your wife punch her.
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Punishment: men vs. women.
- Thread starter Smart_Guy
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Physical punishment is not something to consider. It does not depend on the gender.
Punishment in general must be adjusted to the circunstances - as mentioned already, to the income of the punished, among other factors.
Punishment in general must be adjusted to the circunstances - as mentioned already, to the income of the punished, among other factors.
Just my opinion but i don't have an issue with physical punishment. Something like forced labour is even a physical punishment. Confinement to stocks or other physically uncomfortable/painful punishments are a.ok in my book.
Humans are physical and we respond to physical stimulus. I would however agree that in our society a purely physical punishment system would definitely not work.
Humans are physical and we respond to physical stimulus. I would however agree that in our society a purely physical punishment system would definitely not work.
The ideal behind America is that everyone is created equal and that most especially includes equality before the law. "Special compassion" means that women are considered to be inferior by their very nature and thus not as responsible as men when it comes to legal issues and I reject that.
Now as pointed out, there are a very very few exceptions such as not executing a pregnant woman (until she gives birth) but that's a special and rare case.
Demonslayer
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Jumi
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It works very badly or counterproductively. The damage is both physical and mental, sometimes it pushes them over the edge or kill them by accident. Physical punishment favors people with high pain thresholds and a tough young body that still heals relatively fast.
I once got slapped in the face as a kid for something I didn't do, still hate the guy who did it. He even realized he did wrong but didn't apologize.
I dont think physical punishment should be spontaneous or apply to children... A trial should still be held, deciding the severity of the crime and which punishment best to suit. I'm also not talking about torture either.
Demonslayer
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Hmm, I hadn't thought about something like a chain gang. I guess I'm OK with that if there is no violent treatment. In this case I'm in favor of the same treatment for men and women,
Unveiled Artist
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I disagree with punishment no matter how you flip it.
If women receive less harsh punishment than men, how is that really punishment? I mean, you basically showing that as a woman, your crime is "not as bad" as if a man who committed that same, exact crime. If the punishment is supposed to fit the crime, then gender shouldn't be an issue.
If anything, if the woman purposely committed the crime, hopefully, she'd know "punishment isn't bias." I mean, if I wanted to commit a crime, I'd think, "now do I really want to be in prison with guys who are much stronger than me?" (Pretending for a minute that males/females are in the same prison).
Take a heavy set vs. a not heavy set man. If they both went to the guillotine, would the executioner loosen the rope, hence "severity of pain" based on who is heavy and who is not or would both be executed just one would be more painful than the other because of the weight? Does the weight really matter in the execution?
Unless the rope doesn't fit for one person to be executed, regardless of if it is light pain (from a male) or more heavier pain (for a woman), they commit the crime, and by their government's laws, they suffer consequences. In my mind, the only reason I can see a government "loosing the ropes" between male and female is based on the type of execution that's given.
Have an execution equipment that is gender neutral.
That's if I thought about it logically. Other than that, morally, I disagree with the whole thing.
Thanda
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Why should corporal punishment be removed? I know I would rather receive a lashing than spend six months in jail.
Thanda
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I don't think America is actually any better when it comes to sexist sentencing:
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A new study by Sonja Starr, an assistant law professor at the University of Michigan, found that men are given much higher sentences than women convicted of the same crimes in federal court.
The study found that men receive sentences that are 63 percent higher, on average, than their female counterparts.
Starr also found that females arrested for a crime are also significantly more likely to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742.html
Jumi
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How many lashes would you trade for six months?
Because it's abusive and traumatizing.
Demonslayer
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Two? Is that enough?
I agree that the practice does not meet the ideal
Thanda
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So is jail time.
Thanda
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I guess it depends what I will be lashed with. But I'm looking at 20 for 6 months. That will mean about three weeks max of recovery and then I can get on with my life.
And it shouldn't be that way.
Thanda
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But for now it is. So given the choice between jail time and a good lashing, I would take the lashing anyday. In our prisons here in South Africa going to jail carries with it the very real possibility of being raped, getting infected with HIV, becoming a more hardened criminal than you were when you got in prison, or getting killed.
I understand, and I think that's horrific and inhumane. The prison system in the US is the same and it's very shameful.