Interesting, I never heard the demons called a 'feckless lot', and I think they are well below unscrupulous even if that would Not be possible.
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Interesting, I never heard the demons called a 'feckless lot', and I think they are well below unscrupulous even if that would Not be possible.
Audie
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Incompetent? Stupid? All that supernatural power and
what?! Cant seem to do s***!
Almost like they are not real.
Incompetent? Stupid? All that supernatural power and
what?! Cant seem to do s***!
Almost like they are not real.
I find what the demons can do is cause ' WOE ' on Earth as mentioned at Revelation 12:12; 12:9.
Kind of like a puppeteer pulling the behind-the-scenes strings of the puppets.
Most people want peace on earth so to me it seems odd that we do Not have more peace on earth.
So, the demons are Not incompetent or stupid because they cause real trouble mankind.
It is just they use their competence and intelligence for their own evil intentions.
At Job 2:4-5 Satan challenges all of us. 'Touch our flesh....' ( loose physical health) and we would Not serve God.
We would Not serve God under un-favorable or adverse conditions. Job and Jesus proved Satan a liar.
Creator is Not created because the Creator is from everlasting as per Psalms 90:2.
Since Creator God is from everlasting then God had No starting point, No beginning.
Kind of like we can count numbers, both forwards and backwards, forever and ever, everlastingly.
Subduction Zone
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That was an attempt to demonstrate how illogical a belief in a creator is. There does not appear to be any evidence for a creator nor can any be shown that I am aware of, so why believe in one?
Oh, like a demon is going to come out and prove itself scientifically because you called it feckless.
stvdv
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I always find it intriguing how people quote a spiritual text AND claim "This is proof that this is a FACT".
The correct/respectful way to say this would be "This proves that my belief is true; BUT only for me".
You can never, when in solid mind, claim a spiritual belief to be FACT by quoting a scripture IMO.
Audie
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No, not even in the furthest remote is that what I meant.
Audie
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Is there less than none? See "demon".
I'm sorry... what did you mean? I tried not to assume that you were saying they were actually possible.
Audie
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Oh, like a demon is going to come out and prove itself scientifically because you called it feckless.
Feckless means of course, "utterly ineffectual".
Which is kind of the opposite of coming out to prove itself,
like on a bet or a dare.
I am just saying, these so called demons (who get
less and less credit, not that we know for example that
disease of mind and body are not the work of demons.
These "demons" work in ways that are indistinguisshable
from them not being there at all.
A strange thing, for those so powerful and subtle,
dont you think so?
ecco
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Yeah, that's exactly why eternity and everlasting life in heaven, or anywhere, should scare the $hit out of anyone.
Forever is a long time.
Forever is a long time.
Forever is a long time.
Forever is a long time.
Forever is a long time.
Forever is a long time.
Honestly, I think being indistinguishable from not being there at all is a niche, just like any organism has a niche. I'm not saying I believe in them.
Incidentally, I have something like a demon, and no I can't prove it scientifically. But every once in a while there's a voice in my head that appears as if its coming from outside my head that uses swear words to insult me for no reason.
Come to think of it it's probably my schizophrenia... didn't even occur to me.
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Audie
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That is very characteristic of schizophrenia.
And, of course, with people giving such vivid
descriptions, rather consistent across time and among
individuals, the great and obvious distress..
I am not at all surprised that "demon" was the
apparently obvious and only explanation.
You might be interested to read a book called
"Brain on Fire"
Yeah, I can see how ghost and demon observations could be a lot of schizophrenia; I've heard that everyone has it a little.
Will check out "Brain on Fire."
Since there's no rush, and I'm reading a lot of books, I put "Brain on Fire" on my to-buy list since I'm trying to watch my money at the moment.
I'm on Ch. 2 in the preview.
Well, I read all but the introduction in the preview. Will likely get it for Christmas to myself. Thanks Audie.
I have had times I can't remember and times I could tell my brain wasn't making any sense, and I have seen it in others a few times. It's horrifying.
I am merely saying this is what the Bible teaches. This is the biblical fact that according to Scripture (Psalms 90:2) that God had No beginning. Yes, I do mean according to what I believe. I simply forgot to add the words " I find..."
Thank you for the reminder.
I agree forever is a long time because for each day we can count we can count forever both forwards or backwards.
I am wondering what healthy person wants to pick the day they want to die ______.
Most people I find seek medical help to prolong one's life.
Seems to me most people do Not want to leave Earth. Leaving Earth or life is what they find scary.
I find that according to Scripture - Psalms 115:16 - that Earth is our home.
So, when Jesus said that humble meek people will inherit the Earth he was Not talking about eternity in Heaven.
Everyone Jesus resurrected he resurrected back to life on Earth.
Jesus was giving us a preview, or coming attraction, of what he will do during his 1,000-year reign over Earth.
So, since even un-healthy people seek to stay alive on Earth, then I wonder why a perfectly healthy person would be scared of everlasting life on Earth, especially an Earth as described at Isaiah 35th chapter.