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Put on your oven mitts folks, you are going to need them:

Subduction Zone

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I am merely saying this is what the Bible teaches. This is the biblical fact that according to Scripture (Psalms 90:2) that God had No beginning. Yes, I do mean according to what I believe. I simply forgot to add the words " I find..."
Thank you for the reminder.

I do not think that there exists such an animal as a "biblical fact". At any rate the Cosmos may be every lasting. We have yet to find any serious evidence for a god.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
I agree forever is a long time because for each day we can count we can count forever both forwards or backwards.
I am wondering what healthy person wants to pick the day they want to die ______.
This has nothing to do with "living" for eternity.



Most people I find seek medical help to prolong one's life.
Seems to me most people do Not want to leave Earth. Leaving Earth or life is what they find scary.
Speak for yourself. I'm not afraid of being dead.




I find that according to Scripture - Psalms 115:16 - that Earth is our home.
So, when Jesus said that humble meek people will inherit the Earth he was Not talking about eternity in Heaven.
Everyone Jesus resurrected he resurrected back to life on Earth.
Jesus was giving us a preview, or coming attraction, of what he will do during his 1,000-year reign over Earth.
So, since even un-healthy people seek to stay alive on Earth, then I wonder why a perfectly healthy person would be scared of everlasting life on Earth, especially an Earth as described at Isaiah 35th chapter.
None of the above relates to the discussion.

Have you ever truly contemplated what eternity really is? It's not just 1 followed by a trillion years. Have you ever considered what you would do after you have done everything a billion times? What would there be to look forward to? Death is not an option. There is no escape.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
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I agree forever is a long time because for each day we can count we can count forever both forwards or backwards.
I am wondering what healthy person wants to pick the day they want to die ______.
Most people I find seek medical help to prolong one's life.

Up to a point. if the rest of my life would be pain and suffering with no benefit to those I love, I would choose to die sooner rather than later.

Seems to me most people do Not want to leave Earth. Leaving Earth or life is what they find scary.
I am much more concerned about the process than the end result. We will all die. But some ways to die are more painful or burdensome than others. I'd rather NOT have a long drawn out death with little mental functioning like what happens with, say, Alzheimer's. If that diagnosis ever comes to pass, you can bet I will find a way to shorten the end.

Being dead brings me no fear whatsoever. While I very much enjoy life and would like it to last as it has for a long while, the prospect of death itself isn't an issue for me. I figure it will be something like the long period of time *before* I existed: I wasn't there, so it really didn't affect me at all.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
This has nothing to do with "living" for eternity.
Speak for yourself. I'm not afraid of being dead.
None of the above relates to the discussion.
Have you ever truly contemplated what eternity really is? It's not just 1 followed by a trillion years. Have you ever considered what you would do after you have done everything a billion times? What would there be to look forward to? Death is not an option. There is no escape.

Sure I find death is an option. No one is being forced to choose life. Adam opt'd out !
Since the dead know nothing there is nothing to be afraid of being dead.- Ecclesiastes 9:5.
Eternity is like counting both forwards and backwards forever.
For each day we can think of we can think of a next day forever and ever for all of eternity.
I always look forward to eating, and I always look forward to seeing people I love, can't wait to see them again.
Since we can always learn new things that can be added to what we already know, so No problem.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Up to a point. if the rest of my life would be pain and suffering with no benefit to those I love, I would choose to die sooner rather than later.
I am much more concerned about the process than the end result. We will all die. But some ways to die are more painful or burdensome than others. I'd rather NOT have a long drawn out death with little mental functioning like what happens with, say, Alzheimer's. If that diagnosis ever comes to pass, you can bet I will find a way to shorten the end.
Being dead brings me no fear whatsoever. While I very much enjoy life and would like it to last as it has for a long while, the prospect of death itself isn't an issue for me. I figure it will be something like the long period of time *before* I existed: I wasn't there, so it really didn't affect me at all.

Of course when in pain, etc. that means that one is Not healthy or in good health.
What 'healthy person' wants to pick the day they want to die _______
I think we all have concern, Not end result, but about suffering.
Satan, at Job 2:4-5, challenges all of us. ' Touch our flesh..' (loose physical health) and we would Not serve God.
Both Jesus and Job proved Satan a liar by serving God under adverse conditions.
Suffering on Earth will come to a final end as per Isaiah 33:24 B.
There will be healing for earth's nations as per Revelation 22:2.
In other words, Jesus will Not only usher in global international Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill, but Jesus will do the sample, or small scale, healing works that he did but will be done on a grand-global scale.
That is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Revelation 22:20 for Jesus to come !
'Enemy death ' will be No more according to 1 Corinthians 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Sure I find death is an option. No one is being forced to choose life. Adam opt'd out !
Since the dead know nothing there is nothing to be afraid of being dead.- Ecclesiastes 9:5.
Eternity is like counting both forwards and backwards forever.
For each day we can think of we can think of a next day forever and ever for all of eternity.
I always look forward to eating, and I always look forward to seeing people I love, can't wait to see them again.
Since we can always learn new things that can be added to what we already know, so No problem.
It is pretty hard for a mythical character to opt out.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
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Of course when in pain, etc. that means that one is Not healthy or in good health.
What 'healthy person' wants to pick the day they want to die _______

Well, the problem is that an eternity is long enough to drive a person insane, which is unhealthy. let's face it. After the first 10^1000 years, it will all get to feel the same again and again and again and again and again.....

After the first 10^1000000 years, anyone would be insane from boredom.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
I always look forward to eating, and I always look forward to seeing people I love, can't wait to see them again.
Since we can always learn new things that can be added to what we already know, so No problem.
When you've eaten lobster for the billionth time will you still look forward to eating lobster?
When you've talked to Aunt Mary for the billionth time will you still look forward to talking with Aunt Mary?


When you've studied and learned quantum mechanics for the billionth time will you look forward to ...


You really aren't able to grasp the concept of eternity are you?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Well, the problem is that an eternity is long enough to drive a person insane, which is unhealthy. let's face it. After the first 10^1000 years, it will all get to feel the same again and again and again and again and again.....
After the first 10^1000000 years, anyone would be insane from boredom.

The way this world is today that would be true, but I find since we can never know all that God knows then we can be ever learning. Learning to me is Not boredom. Remember: like Adam a person can always opt out.
I would think it would be best to first experience eternal life before discounting it as turning insane.
There is enough mental illness in today's world without everlasting life, so to me relief from such sickness would even be enough for them to want to try ' happy-and-healthy eternal life ' as being part of the humble meek people who will inherit the Earth. An Earth as described in Isaiah 35th chapter.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
When you've eaten lobster for the billionth time will you still look forward to eating lobster?
When you've talked to Aunt Mary for the billionth time will you still look forward to talking with Aunt Mary?
When you've studied and learned quantum mechanics for the billionth time will you look forward to ...
You really aren't able to grasp the concept of eternity are you?

I have a friend who always looks forward to Lobster especially from Maine.
I had a very old Aunt and looked forward to seeing her until she died.
She was much smarter than me, so it seemed she was much better at parting information to me then I could to her.
So, I very much look forward to her being resurrected and me being smarter so as to converse with her on a much higher level than before.
I's rather learn architecture and look forward to finding answers that I've had for a long time.
What healthy person wants to pick the day they want to die ______
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
When you've eaten lobster for the billionth time will you still look forward to eating lobster?
When you've talked to Aunt Mary for the billionth time will you still look forward to talking with Aunt Mary?


When you've studied and learned quantum mechanics for the billionth time will you look forward to ...


You really aren't able to grasp the concept of eternity are you?

And think of all the harp strings.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I have a friend who always looks forward to Lobster especially from Maine.
I had a very old Aunt and looked forward to seeing her until she died.
She was much smarter than me, so it seemed she was much better at parting information to me then I could to her.
So, I very much look forward to her being resurrected and me being smarter so as to converse with her on a much higher level than before.
I's rather learn architecture and look forward to finding answers that I've had for a long time.
What healthy person wants to pick the day they want to die ______

And all that would work for the first 10,000 years, maybe. Multiply that by 100 and things start to get repetitive. Multiply that by 100 and you start going wildly insane and yearning for non-existence.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
And all that would work for the first 10,000 years, maybe. Multiply that by 100 and things start to get repetitive. Multiply that by 100 and you start going wildly insane and yearning for non-existence.

You think THAT would get boring?

How about this? The Muslims say this is what
I will get for like, exposing my hair in public.

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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
When you've eaten lobster for the billionth time will you still look forward to eating lobster?
When you've talked to Aunt Mary for the billionth time will you still look forward to talking with Aunt Mary?
When you've studied and learned quantum mechanics for the billionth time will you look forward to ...
You really aren't able to grasp the concept of eternity are you?

It seems to me you do Not grasp the concept of Ecclesiastes 3:11 that mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish. So, we will always be learning new things if we wish.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
And all that would work for the first 10,000 years, maybe. Multiply that by 100 and things start to get repetitive. Multiply that by 100 and you start going wildly insane and yearning for non-existence.

As Adam opted out of everlasting life, so can you.
Eating is repetitive and I don't tire of eating.
I know of No healthy person that wants to pick the day they want to die.
Mankind will never know all about God's creative works - Ecclesiastes 3:11.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
And think of all the harp strings.

What harp strings. I love the way Harpo Marx played the harp, but I have No interest in harps.
Instead of harp strings according to Revelation 5:9-10 instead of harps there are two (2) jobs in Heaven to do.
Not for those resurrected to healthy physical life on Earth, but those of Revelation 2:10; 20:6 have two (2) jobs:
(1) They will serve mankind living on Earth as ' kings ' meaning taking care of governmental responsibilities for those who gain everlasting life on Earth at the time of Revelation 22:2.
(2) They will serve mankind living on Earth as ' priests ' meaning taking care of spiritual duties towards those who gain everlasting life on a beautiful paradisical Earth as described at Isaiah 35th chapter.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
What harp strings. I love the way Harpo Marx played the harp, but I have No interest in harps.
Instead of harp strings according to Revelation 5:9-10 instead of harps there are two (2) jobs in Heaven to do.
Not for those resurrected to healthy physical life on Earth, but those of Revelation 2:10; 20:6 have two (2) jobs:
(1) They will serve mankind living on Earth as ' kings ' meaning taking care of governmental responsibilities for those who gain everlasting life on Earth at the time of Revelation 22:2.
(2) They will serve mankind living on Earth as ' priests ' meaning taking care of spiritual duties towards those who gain everlasting life on a beautiful paradisical Earth as described at Isaiah 35th chapter.
There are a lot of strange fantasies, aren't there?
 
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