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Question for all - what happens after death...

Will atheists and theists have the same fate after death?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 81.4%
  • No

    Votes: 11 18.6%

  • Total voters
    59

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

I'm also adding a poll.

Although subjects like what happens after death may have been covered before in a more narrow scope, I'm asking more broadly. And I'm asking, whatever your beliefs are, do you think atheists and theists will have the same fate? (Or tend to have the same fate?)

Feel free to expand on your answer beyond a "Yes" or "No" as well, should you have the time.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I consider 'Atheist' and 'Non atheist' merely to be states of mind. A bonk on the head can make you forget and change your mind. A lightning strike can turn you from one thing into another. It doesn't seem to be an eternal kind of situation, to think one way or the other.

I hear that believers have doubts and atheist are intrigued by theistic concepts sometimes. How can this be? How can a believer think as an atheist and an atheist as a believer, if it is a matter of eternal significance?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
People have a past life review to understand the life just lived and to consolidate the learning in their being. If the life was positive, the joy is called heaven. If the life was negative, the regret etc is called hell because of the amplitude of the emotions involved.

A kind and loving atheist will have had a positive life. A hypocritical hating theist will have had a negative life.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I voted "Yes", but would like to add that "My answer isn't set in stone".

To expand, the way I see it, I see there as being a spiritual afterlife. But I think after a person dies, there is a small, gentle period of unlearning and re-education. And I think that both atheists and theists would experience that.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

I'm also adding a poll.

Although subjects like what happens after death may have been covered before in a more narrow scope, I'm asking more broadly. And I'm asking, whatever your beliefs are, do you think atheists and theists will have the same fate? (Or tend to have the same fate?)

Feel free to expand on your answer beyond a "Yes" or "No" as well, should you have the time.

I picked "Yes," since theoretically, all humans end up dead either way.

If there is no god or afterlife, meaning death is lights out and it's all over, then it would be the same for everyone.

If there is a god and an afterlife - presumably some sort of "heaven" and "hell," then conceivably, it could be different. That could mean that those of us who are unbelievers could end up in hell. Imagine having to share a cell with @Revoltingest in Hell.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I picked "Yes," since theoretically, all humans end up dead either way.

If there is no god or afterlife, meaning death is lights out and it's all over, then it would be the same for everyone.

If there is a god and an afterlife - presumably some sort of "heaven" and "hell," then conceivably, it could be different. That could mean that those of us who are unbelievers could end up in hell. Imagine having to share a cell with @Revoltingest in Hell.

Lol. I actually do like @Revoltingest , so I might not mind if things worked out that way somehow. He does make me facepalm sometimes, but I mean it in a friendly way.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Quite simply, whether atheist or theist, when your body (which includes your brain, which is where "you" exist) dies, that very "you" will no longer exist. That will be true for theists and atheists. Non-existence is the same for theists that no longer exist as it is for atheists that no longer exist.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

I'm also adding a poll.

Although subjects like what happens after death may have been covered before in a more narrow scope, I'm asking more broadly. And I'm asking, whatever your beliefs are, do you think atheists and theists will have the same fate? (Or tend to have the same fate?)

Feel free to expand on your answer beyond a "Yes" or "No" as well, should you have the time.

I voted "no" because I don't believe that atheists and theists will share the same fate in the spirit world. Yes, everyone dies, but the afterlife will not necessarily be the same for atheists and theists. Based on my knowledge and experiences as a psychic medium, I believe that a spirit's experience is primarily determined by them and can be either negative or positive, including how they react to death and even what kind of person they were while alive. I've been communicating with and interacting with spirits for fifteen years, and these experiences have shown me that a person's character in this life can carry over into the afterlife and determine their fate.

I also believe that human spirits can get stuck in the physical world and will need the help and guidance of a psychic medium to cross over into the spirit world. It's my belief that there are human spirits who refuse to cross over into the spirit world because they have unfinished business or because they don't realize that they are dead. In the paranormal field, it is commonly believed that when a person dies abruptly (like in a car accident or from a sudden heart attack), they are unaware that they have died. These spirits are called "earthbound spirits." Based on my experience as a medium and as a paranormal investigator, this belief has been validated by the spirits I've communicated with, the poltergeist activity that I've personally witnessed, the EVPs that I've audibly heard on a Spirit Box or that were captured on an EVP recorder or digital recorder by other paranormal investigators, and the evidence that I've either captured with my own ghost hunting equipment or that I've personally seen that was captured by other paranormal investigators.

Based on my knowledge and my experiences as a medium, I believe that the afterlife, or the spirit world, is an everlasting existence that is not limited by space or time or confined to heaven or hell. In fact, I don't believe that human spirits are trapped for an eternity in either heaven or hell. To be honest, I no longer believe what the Bible teaches about heaven or hell or what it claims will happen to people after they pass into the spirit realm. On the contrary, it's my belief that both human spirits and non-human entities can travel between the spirit realm and the physical world by passing through a spiritual vortex or a spirit portal (such as mirrors and windows).

In all honesty, I've witnessed and experienced far too many paranormal events that run counter to what the Bible claims about the afterlife and death for me to continue hanging onto such beliefs. And I came to that realization when I was still a Christian, but it took me a long time to overcome all the indoctrination I had been subjected to, admit to myself that I had doubts, and accept that what I experienced as a psychic medium was contrary to what I had been taught as a Christian. If you're interested, I've mentioned further details of what I believe about the afterlife and what happens to people after death in prior posts, such as these two here and here.

If you have any specific questions to ask me, then you can send me a PM. My inbox is always open.
 
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PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
If you have any specific questions to ask me, then you can send me a PM. My inbox is always open.

Maybe we can compare experiences (without debating) one of these days. As you know, I feel like I have ESP too, I'm the poster that started the thread about the Illinois town.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Maybe we can compare experiences (without debating) one of these days. As you know, I feel like I have ESP too, I'm the poster that started the thread about the Illinois town.

Maybe so.

I watched the Paranormal State episode "I am Six," which was filmed in Quincy, Illinois. FWIW, I have a lot of respect for Chip Coffey.
 

Ella S.

Well-Known Member
I answered, "No," because I don't think anything happens to anyone after death, so nobody has a fate after death that they could share with one another. We just won't be around anymore.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I answered, "No," because I don't think anything happens to anyone after death, so nobody has a fate after death that they could share with one another. We just won't be around anymore.

I'd consider it okay to vote "yes" if, whatever happens or the lack thereof, including just dieing and that's it, was the same for atheists and theists.

That was the question.

But how you vote, I don't mind.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Similar as was before we were born, only in reverse.

I believe we will either rest at the feet of the Gods, some will fly by their side... maybe a tiny few will fly above them. Right now and right here matter more than a thousand paradises or hells.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
I guess my belief is generally in a sort of platonic soul, and we all have one. Upon our deaths, I would think that this soul has a number of options, one of them being to come back again. Perhaps another is to cease incarnating. I think maybe the thing that would become kind of non-local, apart from the substance of the soul, might be our minds. That is to say, we remain individuals, but are able to 'think' externally. I don't know, it's complicated
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

I'm also adding a poll.

Although subjects like what happens after death may have been covered before in a more narrow scope, I'm asking more broadly. And I'm asking, whatever your beliefs are, do you think atheists and theists will have the same fate? (Or tend to have the same fate?)

Feel free to expand on your answer beyond a "Yes" or "No" as well, should you have the time.
What do you think?
 
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