Why can't we have sea turtles instead?
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Question for all - what happens after death...
- Thread starter PoetPhilosopher
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Why can't we have sea turtles instead?
This body/mind complex is as much "home" to me as my car is to my body.
...or the greatest user ever.
User of recycled materials for sure
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
God works down the Tip.
Ehmm, have you seen Oldham athletic play?
Without googling, I don't even know what an "Oldham" is.
By context, I gather it's either a city or a university.
Perhaps the wording of the survey question is too vague. The options are same fate after death: yes or no, but having a fate does not imply something must happen after death and could refer simply to cessation of life. Based on your comment it seems you could change your vote to the yes if you wanted.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Without googling, I don't even know what an "Oldham" is.
By context, I gather it's either a city or a university.
A mill town a little north of Manchester.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I see no guiding authority in the hereafter so I voted yes. Being an atheist or theist is totally insignificant as to what kind of person you are anyway. I find Christian morality to be appalling though, and certainly delusional. Christian theism brings out the worst qualities in their believers.
Naturalists are interesting people though they often don't make as much sense as they claim.
The spiritual realm has no control over what happens to life after death. And it barely has any noticeable influence in the physical world though it might have significantly more than I think.
The spirit realm is more like the jungle of life it created. Platonic knowledge may indicate deeper truths about the power, authority, usefulness and reliability of the mind. Love, care, virtues and objective moral truths may indicate there is more to life than meets the senses. Yet whomever created this mess isn't perfectly intelligent nor do they have a handle on what should or shouldn't be.
Naturalists are interesting people though they often don't make as much sense as they claim.
The spiritual realm has no control over what happens to life after death. And it barely has any noticeable influence in the physical world though it might have significantly more than I think.
The spirit realm is more like the jungle of life it created. Platonic knowledge may indicate deeper truths about the power, authority, usefulness and reliability of the mind. Love, care, virtues and objective moral truths may indicate there is more to life than meets the senses. Yet whomever created this mess isn't perfectly intelligent nor do they have a handle on what should or shouldn't be.
I voted yes. I have no doubt whatsoever.
In what part of the brain is the anesthesiologist able to make "you" go away?
The Kilted Heathen
Crow FreyjasmaðR
I voted yes.
In Norse beliefs we die and rest thereafter in Hel. Yes, everyone - there is no realm of punishment (no, not even Náströnd; what's written in the Eddas is fairly Christianized). Yes, even those who die in battle and are chosen as Einherjar; Valhöll is the Hall of Óðinn in Hel.
Our legacies live on in living memory - for better or worse - after we pass, and I believe that we are reborn onto the Earth after that memory has faded. Some return quicker than others.
In Norse beliefs we die and rest thereafter in Hel. Yes, everyone - there is no realm of punishment (no, not even Náströnd; what's written in the Eddas is fairly Christianized). Yes, even those who die in battle and are chosen as Einherjar; Valhöll is the Hall of Óðinn in Hel.
Our legacies live on in living memory - for better or worse - after we pass, and I believe that we are reborn onto the Earth after that memory has faded. Some return quicker than others.
Now we're equating death with anesthesia? Do you cease to exist when anesthetized?
In the sense in which you say that, I don't even "cease to exist" when I'm dead. All the bits are still there -- except the bit that makes "me" aware of it. And that's the part the anesthesiologist makes go away, too.
When you speak of "I," you really need to understand what it is that you are referring to. When I speak of "I," I mean the sum total of all the living, functioning parts that permit me to know that "I am." The notion of zombification speaks to this, because if you can make conscious awareness of self disappear, then the remaining ambulatory, brain-eating thing is no longer whoever that person was.
I personally have never, ever encountered evidence of a "person" without a functioning body to sustain it -- from which that notion of "I am" is constructed. Lots and lots of people love to talk about such "spirits," but for some reason seem totally unable to demonstrate one.
What "I" points to, in my experience, is much easier to understand by eliminating everything "I" is not. This is accomplished in my practice through a Vedic process of negation expressed as neti neti. Through this process, and through spontaneous experiences, I understand what "I" is referring to.