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Question for all - what happens after death...

Will atheists and theists have the same fate after death?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 81.4%
  • No

    Votes: 11 18.6%

  • Total voters
    59

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
I voted 'yes'.

We both have either worms or ashes for a future. I have chosen ashes. I told my wife I wanted to be cremated, so now I have an appointment for next Tuesday.

Why can't we have sea turtles instead?
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
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That's nothing compared to the irony of those who claim to worship an all-loving deity who monumentally unfairly and cruelly inflicts infinite punishment for the petty "crime" of not believing what isn't obvious. Now that's an irony to be enjoyed!

Because all theists believe their god has these qualities. :rolleyes:
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
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Yes, in the same way that Manchester Utd fans and Manchester City fans have the same fate. (Although the jury is out on Oldham Athletic fans).

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Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
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I answered, "No," because I don't think anything happens to anyone after death, so nobody has a fate after death that they could share with one another. We just won't be around anymore.
Perhaps the wording of the survey question is too vague. The options are same fate after death: yes or no, but having a fate does not imply something must happen after death and could refer simply to cessation of life. Based on your comment it seems you could change your vote to the yes if you wanted.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

I'm also adding a poll.

Although subjects like what happens after death may have been covered before in a more narrow scope, I'm asking more broadly. And I'm asking, whatever your beliefs are, do you think atheists and theists will have the same fate? (Or tend to have the same fate?)

Feel free to expand on your answer beyond a "Yes" or "No" as well, should you have the time.
Same thing what already happened after the last
death.

You get born.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I see no guiding authority in the hereafter so I voted yes. Being an atheist or theist is totally insignificant as to what kind of person you are anyway. I find Christian morality to be appalling though, and certainly delusional. Christian theism brings out the worst qualities in their believers.
Naturalists are interesting people though they often don't make as much sense as they claim.

The spiritual realm has no control over what happens to life after death. And it barely has any noticeable influence in the physical world though it might have significantly more than I think.

The spirit realm is more like the jungle of life it created. Platonic knowledge may indicate deeper truths about the power, authority, usefulness and reliability of the mind. Love, care, virtues and objective moral truths may indicate there is more to life than meets the senses. Yet whomever created this mess isn't perfectly intelligent nor do they have a handle on what should or shouldn't be.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
I voted yes.

In Norse beliefs we die and rest thereafter in Hel. Yes, everyone - there is no realm of punishment (no, not even Náströnd; what's written in the Eddas is fairly Christianized). Yes, even those who die in battle and are chosen as Einherjar; Valhöll is the Hall of Óðinn in Hel.

Our legacies live on in living memory - for better or worse - after we pass, and I believe that we are reborn onto the Earth after that memory has faded. Some return quicker than others.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Now we're equating death with anesthesia? Do you cease to exist when anesthetized?
In the sense in which you say that, I don't even "cease to exist" when I'm dead. All the bits are still there -- except the bit that makes "me" aware of it. And that's the part the anesthesiologist makes go away, too.

When you speak of "I," you really need to understand what it is that you are referring to. When I speak of "I," I mean the sum total of all the living, functioning parts that permit me to know that "I am." The notion of zombification speaks to this, because if you can make conscious awareness of self disappear, then the remaining ambulatory, brain-eating thing is no longer whoever that person was.

I personally have never, ever encountered evidence of a "person" without a functioning body to sustain it -- from which that notion of "I am" is constructed. Lots and lots of people love to talk about such "spirits," but for some reason seem totally unable to demonstrate one.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
In the sense in which you say that, I don't even "cease to exist" when I'm dead. All the bits are still there -- except the bit that makes "me" aware of it. And that's the part the anesthesiologist makes go away, too.

When you speak of "I," you really need to understand what it is that you are referring to. When I speak of "I," I mean the sum total of all the living, functioning parts that permit me to know that "I am." The notion of zombification speaks to this, because if you can make conscious awareness of self disappear, then the remaining ambulatory, brain-eating thing is no longer whoever that person was.

I personally have never, ever encountered evidence of a "person" without a functioning body to sustain it -- from which that notion of "I am" is constructed. Lots and lots of people love to talk about such "spirits," but for some reason seem totally unable to demonstrate one.

What "I" points to, in my experience, is much easier to understand by eliminating everything "I" is not. This is accomplished in my practice through a Vedic process of negation expressed as neti neti. Through this process, and through spontaneous experiences, I understand what "I" is referring to.
 
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