Question for all - what happens after death...

[CharmingOwl]

I think the reason all of these different religions exist is because when the soul of a person chooses to come to Earth, they don't actually need to know so much of the truth to learn and experience all of the lessons of that lifetime. The soul of a person might just think, being Christian in America is easier so I have more access to community etc. and never actually choose to have a spiritual awakening or third eye opening. There is a lot of deep occult stuff like demonolatry or new age but not every lifetime that a person's soul chooses is conducive to working with that.

Also, upon death they all go back to the underworld and they are no longer "In character" so to speak so they don't need to carry over their beliefs to the spirit world. In the next life they might try to act out beliefs they really liked before or want to try and experience. They might also reach out to certain gods which will affect them in the next life.

 

[YoursTrue]

Interesting. Where would the person God made alive exist?

Your answer, at least in my mind, conjures your Godas being the puppet master in some twisted zombie apocalypse.

I felt the same way for a short while; however, God is God and we are not. (Psalm 86)

 

[YoursTrue]

For my answer, I asked God (when I was 12). I got no response so I rationally came to my answer. I didn't get it from a book, a sermon or just take some person's word for it. The greatest answers come from within and from deep dark places. You're free to reject it.

I believe God can communicate with us through the Bible, as we read it and pray about what we are learning.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

What "I" points to, in my experience, is much easier to understand by eliminating everything "I" is not. This is accomplished in my practice through a Vedic process of negation expressed as neti neti. Through this process, and through spontaneous experiences, I understand what "I" is referring to.

But I note, as you attempt to eliminate 'everything that "I" is not,' that at no point do you eliminate the physical stuff -- most importantly the neurons and synapses in your brain. So the question is, what makes you suppose that you could continue the process of neti neti without those neurons and synapses? What makes you suspect that there would still be something left? To my knowledge, there has never been a verifiable demonstration of such a thing in all of human history.

 

[Colt]

Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

I'm also adding a poll.

Although subjects like what happens after death may have been covered before in a more narrow scope, I'm asking more broadly. And I'm asking, whatever your beliefs are, do you think atheists and theists will have the same fate? (Or tend to have the same fate?)

Feel free to expand on your answer beyond a "Yes" or "No" as well, should you have the time.

The unsalvageable, Gods children who completely, categorically reject God, are like a kind of miscarriage. There is no place for them in Gods future economy.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

For my answer, I asked God (when I was 12). I got no response so I rationally came to my answer. I didn't get it from a book, a sermon or just take some person's word for it. The greatest answers come from within and from deep dark places. You're free to reject it.

I never got answers from the biblical God either during the years I was a devout Christian, so I eventually gave up after realizing that I might as well be praying to a brick wall and expecting that wall to answer my prayers. My understanding of the afterlife is founded on a lifetime of experiences as a medium, as well as the past fifteen years of using my medium abilities and investigating and researching the paranormal. To be honest, my beliefs about the afterlife have dramatically changed as a result of my experiences as a medium.

 

[soulsurvivor]

Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

I'm also adding a poll.

Although subjects like what happens after death may have been covered before in a more narrow scope, I'm asking more broadly. And I'm asking, whatever your beliefs are, do you think atheists and theists will have the same fate? (Or tend to have the same fate?)

Feel free to expand on your answer beyond a "Yes" or "No" as well, should you have the time.

Of course, all people theists, atheists, agnostics, polytheists, communists etc go through the same experience after death. The visions each sees after death may be a bit different (Christians may see someone like Jesus, Buddhists may see a Buddha etc), but otherwise the process is exactly the same. In fact, some fundamentalist believers may be shocked to encounter non-believers or people of other faiths in the life after death (they expect those to go to hell). You can read some more about the afterlife here: Heaven, Hell and the AfterLife

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The unsalvageable, Gods children who completely, categorically reject God, are like a kind of miscarriage. There is no place for them in Gods future economy.

Charming! So much easier to see why Christians like to say "God is Love."

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Of course, all people theists, atheists, agnostics, polytheists, communists etc go through the same experience after death......................

Afterlife means being more alive 'after' death than before death.
Jesus taught there is No experience after death - John 11:11-14
So, genuine 'wheat' Christians believe as Jesus believed that the dead are in a sleep-like unconscious state.
Jesus based his teachings on the old Hebrew Scriptures which teach ' sleep ' in death.
Such as - Psalms 6:5; Psalms 13:3; Psalms 115:17; Isaiah 38:18 and Ecclesiastes 9:5
If the dead were alive there would be No need for a resurrection back to live life again - John 6:40 B

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Interesting. Where would the person God made alive exist?
Your answer, at least in my mind, conjures your God as being the puppet master in some twisted zombie apocalypse.

I find since Satan is the 'god' of this world of badness - 2 Corinthians 4:4 - then to me Satan is the Puppet Master pulling the behind-the-scenes strings leading up to the Great Tribulation ending in Armageddon - Revelation 12:9,12
Armageddon the final war to finally end all wars - Psalms 46:9
Thus, the person that is resurrected (made alive again) is either: resurrected to Heaven (Revelation 20:6) or resurrected back to physical life to exist and live life again on Earth with everlasting life on Earth in view as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.

 

[soulsurvivor]

Afterlife means being more alive 'after' death than before death.
Jesus taught there is No experience after death - John 11:11-14
So, genuine 'wheat' Christians believe as Jesus believed that the dead are in a sleep-like unconscious state.
Jesus based his teachings on the old Hebrew Scriptures which teach ' sleep ' in death.
Such as - Psalms 6:5; Psalms 13:3; Psalms 115:17; Isaiah 38:18 and Ecclesiastes 9:5
If the dead were alive there would be No need for a resurrection back to live life again - John 6:40 B

The Christ will be Returning soon. Then we can ask him in person what he actually said about death and the afterlife and what he actually meant. I think many Christians and non-Christians (wheat or chaff) will be surprised if not very disappointed.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

What's the timeline on Jesus' return this time around? I'm running out of notches on my belt.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The Christ will be Returning soon. Then we can ask him in person what he actually said about death and the afterlife and what he actually meant. I think many Christians and non-Christians (wheat or chaff) will be surprised if not very disappointed.

When Jesus returns the 'wheat/sheep' and the 'chaff/goats ' will both be alive on Earth at Jesus' coming Glory Time (Matthew 25:31-34,37) the 'wheat/sheep' can remain alive on Earth and be here to see calendar Day One of Jesus' Millennium-Long Day of governing over Earth for a thousand years and have everlasting life on Earth in view.
Whereas the 'chaff/goats' will be gone with the wind, so to speak.
Or as the Bible teaches the wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' (become extinct) - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22

 

[URAVIP2ME]

What's the timeline on Jesus' return this time around? I'm running out of notches on my belt.

Good one ^ above ^ ! The next timeline I would say is the saying of " Peace and Security...."
Since we are now at the ' final phase ' of Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 that international work is now global as never before.
This means we are nearing the ' final signal ', so to speak, of 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 when the powers in charge will be saying, " Peace and Security....". That Rosy saying can lead people down that so-called Primrose Path when actually that coming Rosy saying is the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14,9.
- Mark 13:32-37

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Havnae changed a bit I see.

Ura, you do realize people have been waving the flags that we're "nearing the end" for the last 200+ years, yes? Anyways, what does all this have to do with the afterlife?

 

[YoursTrue]

The Christ will be Returning soon. Then we can ask him in person what he actually said about death and the afterlife and what he actually meant. I think many Christians and non-Christians (wheat or chaff) will be surprised if not very disappointed.

Why?

 

[soulsurvivor]

Why?

Why will they be surprised? Some of their fundamental beliefs will be contradicted - but this will be true for all religions, not just Christians. Most of them will be disappointed that theirs won't be the only religion allowed into Heaven.

 

[soulsurvivor]

When Jesus returns the 'wheat/sheep' and the 'chaff/goats ' will both be alive on Earth at Jesus' coming Glory Time (Matthew 25:31-34,37) the 'wheat/sheep' can remain alive on Earth and be here to see calendar Day One of Jesus' Millennium-Long Day of governing over Earth for a thousand years and have everlasting life on Earth in view.
Whereas the 'chaff/goats' will be gone with the wind, so to speak.
Or as the Bible teaches the wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' (become extinct) - Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22

Matthew 25 does seem to say that, but I hope it is not literally true because it could mean getting rid of more than a billion people - unfortunately there are many goats in the world. Anyway, even the sheep will continue to be mortal after the Christ's return - nobody can live forever in a physical body.

 

[Muffled]

Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

I'm also adding a poll.

Although subjects like what happens after death may have been covered before in a more narrow scope, I'm asking more broadly. And I'm asking, whatever your beliefs are, do you think atheists and theists will have the same fate? (Or tend to have the same fate?)

Feel free to expand on your answer beyond a "Yes" or "No" as well, should you have the time.

I believe the answer is no, because believers have an advantage of a personal relationship with God and atheists do not. Otherwise God is judge of both. The difference in that is simply that believers are forgiven and know they are forgiven.

 

[Muffled]

I consider 'Atheist' and 'Non atheist' merely to be states of mind. A bonk on the head can make you forget and change your mind. A lightning strike can turn you from one thing into another. It doesn't seem to be an eternal kind of situation, to think one way or the other.

I hear that believers have doubts and atheist are intrigued by theistic concepts sometimes. How can this be? How can a believer think as an atheist and an atheist as a believer, if it is a matter of eternal significance?

I believe there is no eternal significance although there is the law of motion. Things going in one direction tend to continue in that direction unless a force intervenes.

I say not eternal because I believe in the wheel of time and re-incarnation.