Question for all - what happens after death...

[YoursTrue]

Nor does it mean a god exists.



If a god exists then how do you know?



In your opinion, in mine (and that of science) atoms are reused, not resurrected

I can't speak for the "reuse" of atoms on a continual basis as if that's the way it goes and went, but now the question arises -- if that is true, then the atoms would have had to be here without creation forever, in other words, without beginning. And that, my friend, would not make sense, but then I'm not the creator, and I'm not God, I am only saying what I understand now. To recap, God knows everything about each one of us. However He does it, He can restore life -- we will know ourselves upon resurrection. Do I understand it all, of course not, I only know it makes sense to me that we would be resurrected as ourselves. And not someone else. Take care, and have a nice day. (really)

 

[YoursTrue]

Just as correct as your religious journeys

Not necessarily. But then that's another story, and you don't believe in God and/or that the Bible is in part His way of communicating with mankind. So -- whatever -- each to his or her own as the saying goes.

 

[YoursTrue]

Just as correct as your religious journeys

The journey into the occult was forbidden by God for HIS PEOPLE. Not for others. Including the Babylonians and the Assyrians, etc. It was His command to the people of whom He was and is their God. The descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Since there are twisters of the word of God and His commandments, He is not necessarily going to stop them until He does. Which will be a good thing for those who survive and/or are resurrected. Some will argue all they like but they are not he final determiner. I rest on what I know -- have found to be true -- for which I am very grateful.

 

[ChristineM]

I can't speak for the "reuse" of atoms on a continual basis as if that's the way it goes and went, but now the question arises -- if that is true, then the atoms would have had to be here without creation forever, in other words, without beginning. And that, my friend, would not make sense, but then I'm not the creator, and I'm not God, I am only saying what I understand now. To recap, God knows everything about each one of us. However He does it, He can restore life -- we will know ourselves upon resurrection. Do I understand it all, of course not, I only know it makes sense to me that we would be resurrected as ourselves. And not someone else. Take care, and have a nice day. (really)

The first atoms (hydrogen and helium) formed from the plasma of the BB as it cooled. Heavier atoms were formed either by nuclear fusion this hydrogen and helium in suns or as the suns died
This is well understood.


You seem to know a lot about what is unknowable, almost like these thoughts of what your god can do are coming directly from your own brain.

Makes sense to you? I am not going in to that

 

[YoursTrue]

Just as correct as your religious journeys

You do bring up an interesting point, which is that there were many who fought against God and lost. They were determined they were right and God was wrong. Kind of like Adam and Eve at the beginning of mankind. I know you don't believe it, but it makes sense to me.

The first atoms (hydrogen and helium) formed from the plasma of the BB as it cooled. Heavier atoms were formed either by nuclear fusion this hydrogen and helium in suns or as the suns died
This is well understood.


You seem to know a lot about what is unknowable, almost like these thoughts of what your god can do are coming directly from your own brain.

Makes sense to you? I am not going in to that

It doesn't matter whether you agree now or not. You might want to read Romans chapter 3 but then again -- have a good day and enjoy the atomic structure while you can.

 

[ChristineM]

Not necessarily. But then that's another story, and you don't believe in God and/or that the Bible is in part His way of communicating with mankind. So -- whatever -- each to his or her own as the saying goes.

Actually yes it is just as correct as yours, and has nothing to do with me not believing in gods.

 

[YoursTrue]

The first atoms (hydrogen and helium) formed from the plasma of the BB as it cooled. Heavier atoms were formed either by nuclear fusion this hydrogen and helium in suns or as the suns died
This is well understood.


You seem to know a lot about what is unknowable, almost like these thoughts of what your god can do are coming directly from your own brain.

Makes sense to you? I am not going in to that

This is not an answer. But if you think it is -- have a good one, again, Christine. Take care and bye for now...The future will tell. Take care.

 

[YoursTrue]

Actually yes it is just as correct as yours, and has nothing to do with me not believing in gods.

That is what the Bible is all about. Some do, some don't.

 

[ChristineM]

The journey into the occult was forbidden by God for HIS PEOPLE. Not for others. Including the Babylonians and the Assyrians, etc. It was His command to the people of whom He was and is their God. The descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Since there are twisters of the word of God and His commandments, He is not necessarily going to stop them until He does. Which will be a good thing for those who survive and/or are resurrected. Some will argue all they like but they are not he final determiner. I rest on what I know -- have found to be true -- for which I am very grateful.

Only if gods exist and to date no falsifiable evidence has been put forward to show that they do exit.

Interesting that Abrahamic god followers dis the occult but perform incantations to their god evey time they pray.

I find there opposition to other faiths to be very hypocritical

 

[ChristineM]

You do bring up an interesting point, which is that there were many who fought against God and lost. They were determined they were right and God was wrong. Kind of like Adam and Eve at the beginning of mankind. I know you don't believe it, but it makes sense to me.

So you are saying that your god was an intolerant god who disposed by violence those who did not follow him?

It doesn't matter whether you agree now or not. You might want to read Romans chapter 3 but then again -- have a good day and enjoy the atomic structure while you can.

What has the bible got to do with cosmology?

 

[ChristineM]

This is not an answer. But if you think it is -- have a good one, again, Christine. Take care and bye for now...The future will tell. Take care.

This is THE answer, sorry you don't like it

And i see you no longer wish to discuss this

 

[ChristineM]

That is what the Bible is all about. Some do, some don't.

And those who don't follow the bible deserve equal respect to thise who do.

In fact the bible tells you so when it is not telling you to destroy difference. Again very hypocritical in my view

 

[Nakosis]

Same thing what already happened after the last
death.

You get born.

That would fit with my memories but scientific research has caused me to doubt the reliability of those memories.

I expect non-existence and would be surprised at any continuation of existence after death.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Just as correct as your religious journeys

I think that's true as well. I don't believe that Christianity is any more special than other religions or morally superior to other religions. In my opinion, it is merely a copycat religion that copied and adapted its beliefs and biblical stories from Greek mythology and other pagan religions that predated it.

 

[Muffled]

I don't know what the wheel of time is, however something about reincarnation is attractive to me. Maybe its that I like the idea of improving.

I believe that can happen but without much memory of past lives it is difficult to recognize mistake were made and learn from them. Some people just keep making the same mistakes, over and over.

 

[Muffled]

that settles it then. And of course, your journeys into the occult can't be wrong (or deceptive) -- right?

I believe an occult source is not as good as God and a lot less reliable.

 

[Trailblazer]

To recap, God knows everything about each one of us. However He does it, He can restore life -- we will know ourselves upon resurrection.

God is not going to restore physical life. God created the human body to be mortal, not immortal.
When we die physically we do not really die because we are not our body. Our soul is who we are and our soul is immortal.
After the physical body dies, our soul will assume another form, a spiritual body.

1 Corinthians 15 New Living Translation​

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44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.​

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51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!​

This is no different from what Baha’is believe. We will have another kind of body after we die, a heavenly form.

“The answer to the third question is this, that in the other world the human reality doth not assume a physical form, rather doth it take on a heavenly form, made up of elements of that heavenly realm.” Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, p. 194​

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“The world beyond is as different from this world as this world is different from that of the child while still in the womb of its mother. When the soul attaineth the Presence of God, it will assume the form that best befitteth its immortality and is worthy of its celestial habitation.”​

Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 157​

 

[YoursTrue]

And those who don't follow the bible deserve equal respect to thise who do.

In fact the bible tells you so when it is not telling you to destroy difference. Again very hypocritical in my view

Please explain, thanks. As I said although I believe there is a line spiritually separating people, and I believe what you do not, Christine, it is clearly the one you don't believe exists, but I do, that will, in my view, make the final decision.

 

[YoursTrue]

I think that's true as well. I don't believe that Christianity is any more special than other religions or morally superior to other religions. In my opinion, it is merely a copycat religion that copied and adapted its beliefs and biblical stories from Greek mythology and other pagan religions that predated it.

I didn't believe in the vast panoply of the assorted world of churches either. I still don't. If I thought that Catholicism or Pentacostals or Buddhism etc were by and from God, I'd feel free to join them in their beliefs and worship. But I don't. We all make choices. That is part of the wonderful things about us. And if you believe in God, part of that connection also.

 

[YoursTrue]

And those who don't follow the bible deserve equal respect to thise who do.

In fact the bible tells you so when it is not telling you to destroy difference. Again very hypocritical in my view

By the way, there was supposed to be one religion in Israel from Moses on out. To make it short, God did not always approve of what they were doing. Over the course of time, He let them know.