Question for all - what happens after death...

[YoursTrue]

This is THE answer, sorry you don't like it

And i see you no longer wish to discuss this

There is no point.

 

[viole]

Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

Yes.

ciao

- viole

 

[YoursTrue]

Just as correct as your religious journeys

Or how about incorrect, going along with your idea. Either people can have communication with the dear or they cannot.

 

[ChristineM]

Please explain, thanks. As I said although I believe there is a line spiritually separating people, and I believe what you do not, Christine, it is clearly the one you don't believe exists, but I do, that will, in my view, make the final decision.

Love thy neighbour,,ever heard of it?

Nope, all that means is you believe in gods (or a god) and i dont.

 

[ChristineM]

By the way, there was supposed to be one religion in Israel from Moses on out. To make it short, God did not always approve of what they were doing. Over the course of time, He let them know.

Isreal is not the world, nor was it.

 

[ChristineM]

Or how about incorrect, going along with your idea. Either people can have communication with the dear or they cannot.

Nope, precisely as correct as your faith or any other faith.

The dear? I saw a deer this afternoon i guess you didn't mean one of those

 

[ChieftheCef]

I have a hunch, and it comes from NDEs, dreams which are induced by endogenous (natural; to the body) psychedelic compound(s). NDEs are Near Death Experiences. What's very typical of these is the coming to all light which one follows into a great dream. At near death and death molecules of the chemical repsoniosble for dreaming are released. Now the chemicals repsonsible for dreaming, diemethyltriptamine, elongates mere seconds into eons of actual time to the end user. It's just all in the brain. Eventually the trip comes to a close and one becomes, body and soul (everything you are and experience, even memories) simply fades out and becomes one with Nothingness.

 

[ChristineM]

I have a hunch, and it comes from NDEs, dreams which are induced by endogenous (natural; to the body) psychedelic compound(s). NDEs are Near Death Experiences. What's very typical of these is the coming to all light which one follows into a great dream. At near death and death molecules of the chemical repsoniosble for dreaming are released. Now the chemicals repsonsible for dreaming, diemethyltriptamine, elongates mere seconds into eons of actual time to the end user. It's just all in the brain. Eventually the trip comes to a close and one becomes, body and soul (everything you are and experience, even memories) simply fades out and becomes one with Nothingness.

My dad told me his experience with NDEs. He was mugged and left for dead with a broken skull. In a coma for 6 weeks and actually died 3 times. Thanks to the medical staff he was brought back from death.

To this day, although very grateful for the medical expertise he received, he is absolutely certain he is only alive because his god is a lousy poker player.

 

[YoursTrue]

Nope, precisely as correct as your faith or any other faith.

The dear? I saw a deer this afternoon i guess you didn't mean one of those

Let me put it this way to you, Christine: the Bible is filled with accounts of those who believe and those who don't believe. And those who don't believe in accordance with God's will. We can keep arguing about it, but I really do understand from the Bible that there are those who believe in God as He wills (I know there will be arguments about this, but I can only say what I believe and understand), and there are accounts of those who do not.

 

[YoursTrue]

Nope, precisely as correct as your faith or any other faith.

The dear? I saw a deer this afternoon i guess you didn't mean one of those

lol, that is correct. I mean the dead. No, I haven't seen a deer or a dead one literally today. Jesus is said to describe some as dead while still alive.
New International Version Matthew 8:22
But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead."

 

[Trailblazer]

Jesus is said to describe some as dead while still alive.

Yes, those are the spiritually dead.

 

[YoursTrue]

Love thy neighbour,,ever heard of it?

Nope, all that means is you believe in gods (or a god) and i dont.

I believe there is one God over all. He is the supreme, most high. The Bible bears this out. I am not suggesting you believe what the Bible says, just mentioning it.
New International Version
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, (Luke 1:32)

 

[YoursTrue]

Love thy neighbour,,ever heard of it?

Nope, all that means is you believe in gods (or a god) and i dont.

What limit will you go to in order to love your neighbor?
Also, the word god can mean different things. Don't want to get too detailed now, but again, the Bible (and I believe it) says there is one Most High God. Not three most high gods, etc.
Genesis 14:20 - And blessed be God Most High, who has defeated your enemies for you.”

 

[Lekatt]

Yes,, of course. We are all One.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Yes, those are the spiritually dead.

What a choice - spiritually dead or intellectually dead?

(As both displayed so often on RF).

 

[ChristineM]

Let me put it this way to you, Christine: the Bible is filled with accounts of those who believe and those who don't believe. And those who don't believe in accordance with God's will. We can keep arguing about it, but I really do understand from the Bible that there are those who believe in God as He wills (I know there will be arguments about this, but I can only say what I believe and understand), and there are accounts of those who do not.

Its also filled with accounts of those who don't believe being massacred.

 

[ChristineM]

lol, that is correct. I mean the dead. No, I haven't seen a deer or a dead one literally today. Jesus is said to describe some as dead while still alive.
New International Version Matthew 8:22
But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead."

That is really a very dispassionate verse that shows the complete misunderstanding of people

 

[ChristineM]

I believe there is one God over all. He is the supreme, most high

Wnd others believe otherwise.

FYI there have been around 3800 supreme, most high gods worshipped through recorded history.


Also the New International Version is incomplete and bastardised the bible by simply making it easier for mr, mrs and miss average to understand.

 

[ChristineM]

What limit will you go to in order to love your neighbor?
Also, the word god can mean different things. Don't want to get too detailed now, but again, the Bible (and I believe it) says there is one Most High God. Not three most high gods, etc.
Genesis 14:20 - And blessed be God Most High, who has defeated your enemies for you.”

My love is not in question, it your dislike of different faiths that i am questioning.

Ahh right another violent verse depicting massacre of non believers in god.

Do you realise that this hypocrisy, dual standard, loathing of difference, whatever is the very reason i left the church in disgust almost 40 years ago and slowly, after reading the bible fully became an atheist?

 

[ChieftheCef]

My dad told me his experience with NDEs. He was mugged and left for dead with a broken skull. In a coma for 6 weeks and actually died 3 times. Thanks to the medical staff he was brought back from death.

To this day, although very grateful for the medical expertise he received, he is absolutely certain he is only alive because his god is a lousy poker player.

Its very possible. Nothing in science says the universe isn't alive. Imagine god is just the universe, and us it's cells. There seems to be something that take care of us. Many call this God, the Dao, and other such names. I call her Nature.