Question for all - what happens after death...

[Muffled]

People have a past life review to understand the life just lived and to consolidate the learning in their being. If the life was positive, the joy is called heaven. If the life was negative, the regret etc is called hell because of the amplitude of the emotions involved.

A kind and loving atheist will have had a positive life. A hypocritical hating theist will have had a negative life.

I believe that is mostly fantasy. There are occurrences of near death experiences, after which the person claims his whole life passed before his eyes.

i believe there is no automatic resolution of the future based on a person's life. I believe God decides what is best for the person.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I believe there is no eternal significance although there is the law of motion. Things going in one direction tend to continue in that direction unless a force intervenes.

I say not eternal because I believe in the wheel of time and re-incarnation.

I don't know what the wheel of time is, however something about reincarnation is attractive to me. Maybe its that I like the idea of improving.

 

[ChristineM]

I completely agree with you – these experiences can offer reassurance, especially when we're grappling with the unknowns of life and death. While they may not give us all the answers, they do make us ponder the possibilities and remind us that there could be something beyond this physical realm.

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[YoursTrue]

I don't know what the wheel of time is, however something about reincarnation is attractive to me. Maybe its that I like the idea of improving.

You can improve as the same person, as you. In many different ways. But as you. That also depends on how long you'll live.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

Yes.
Bodies disentegrate and the molecules / atoms that made it up are recycled into the eco-system.

 

[ChristineM]

Yes.
Bodies disentegrate and the molecules / atoms that made it up are recycled into the eco-system.

^^^ THIS ^^^​

 

[Mock Turtle]

The question of what happens after death is a deeply philosophical and religious inquiry that has intrigued humanity for centuries. From my perspective, as, I don't possess personal beliefs or opinions, but I can offer insights into this topic.

The question of whether atheists and theists will have the same fate after death is inherently tied to one's individual beliefs and worldview. Different belief systems and religions propose various understandings of what happens after we pass away.

In many religious traditions, theists hold that there is an afterlife, which can vary greatly in nature based on their specific beliefs. Atheists, who generally do not hold belief in a higher power or deity, often lean toward the view that death represents the end of consciousness.

It's important to recognize that diverse perspectives exist within both the theist and atheist communities. Some believe in concepts like heaven, hell, reincarnation, or spiritual liberation, while others consider death as the cessation of existence without any form of consciousness.

Ultimately, the question of whether atheists and theists will have the same fate after death hinges on one's personal beliefs about the existence of an afterlife and the nature of the universe. The variety of viewpoints across cultures, religions, and philosophies highlights the complexity of this subject and the deep contemplation it evokes.

What happens to any of us as to beliefs, and being determined by such, is probably the least plausible explanation, rather than whatever happening applying to all being whatever it is. Too much wishful thinking has permeated religions in my view.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yes.
Bodies disentegrate and the molecules / atoms that made it up are recycled into the eco-system.

Yes, that is what happens to our bodies, but we are not bodies, we are souls, and souls are eternal.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Yes, that is what happens to our bodies, but we are not bodies, we are souls, and souls are eternal.

I believe that as well.

 

[YmirGF]

Do you think that whatever happens after death, that atheists and theists will have the same fate as each other?

Mmmm. A tasty topic.

100%, yes.

I'm also adding a poll.

I so love polls. I voted, "Yep!"

Although subjects like what happens after death may have been covered before in a more narrow scope, I'm asking more broadly. And I'm asking, whatever your beliefs are, do you think atheists and theists will have the same fate? (Or tend to have the same fate?)

I have a fairly unique take on this topic. First, I do believe that consciousness survives physical death, due to having gone through what could be called out-of-body experiences. (Special pleading, LOL.) Likewise, I am a somewhat seasoned meditator and am quite familiar with various meditative states. (Appeal to authority, LOL). My view is also mildly spiced with Tibetan Buddhism, as outlined in the Bardo Thodol.

What I perceive people will encounter at the moment of death and shortly thereafter is their expectations. Whatever you BELIEVE will happen, for a time, will happen. How real this period is, is well beyond my pay grade, but I see it like a highly therapeutic realignment of the formerly physical personality into the psychological matrix of the larger identity. I see this larger identity as the entity, soul or perhaps even spirit, and is predominantly non-physical. This is, in effect, a return to god, or the return of the prodigal child to its creator, the inner self.

I could be wrong, and it's not like I have a nifty book to point at... yet.

Feel free to expand on your answer beyond a "Yes" or "No" as well, should you have the time.

Ah, do I have to?

 

[YoursTrue]

I don't know what the wheel of time is, however something about reincarnation is attractive to me. Maybe its that I like the idea of improving.

You can improve the same person, as you. In many different ways. But as you. That also depends on how long you'll live.

^^^ THIS ^^^​

We'll, not to interfere but that doesn't mean that God cannot reconstruct our bodies. And one day I might recognize YOU -- not a lookalike body. Maybe in a few thousand years we can be talking and I'll say, wait a minute! are you the Christine that posted on RF? And we will happily continue our existences. May be difficult to digest but God knows every hair on our head, even the ones that have fallen out of mine and didn't grow back. He knows every sparrow that falls to the ground, Jesus said. Makes sense to me.
P.S. it's not reincarnation. It's called a resurrection.

 

[Trailblazer]

We'll, not to interfere but that doesn't mean that God cannot reconstruct our bodies. Makes sense to me.

It makes no sense to me.
Why on earth would God want to reconstruct our bodies? Just because you 'want' another physical body is not a reason for God to give you another one.

It is also not supported by the Bible that God will reconstruct our physical bodies that died.

1 Corinthians 15 New Living Translation​

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44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.​

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51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!​

A spiritual body is not a physical body.
A transformation is not a reconstruction.

P.S. it's not reincarnation. It's called a resurrection.

What you are describing is not the resurrection that is going to happen.

The following quote explains what happens to our body and our spirit (soul) when we die physically. It's pretty straightforward and was written by a bible-believing Christian.

The Resuscitation of Man from the Dead and His Entrance into Eternal Life

421. When the body is no longer able to perform the bodily functions in the natural world that correspond to the spirit’s thoughts and affections, which the spirit has from the spiritual world, man is said to die. This takes place when the respiration of the lungs and the beatings of the heart cease. But the man does not die; he is merely separated from the bodily part that was of use to him in the world, while the man himself continues to live. It is said that the man himself continues to live since man is not a man because of his body but because of his spirit, for it is the spirit that thinks in man, and thought with affection is what constitutes man. Evidently, then, the death of man is merely his passing from one world into another. And this is why in the Word in its internal sense “death” signifies resurrection and continuation of life. Heaven and Hell, p. 351

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was, and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

It makes no sense to me.
Why on earth would God want to reconstruct our bodies? Just because you 'want' another physical body is not a reason for God to give you another one.

The idea of God reconstructing bodies in some futuristic supernatural event is a peculiar belief and personal view, in my opinion. But I also think that the beliefs held by the majority of Christians regarding the afterlife are equally unusual. One thing is for sure: Christians do not agree with each other about what is supposed to happen to them or to unbelievers in the afterlife. This is not surprising, however, given that they rarely agree on anything in the Bible.

 

[cataway]

It makes no sense to me.
Why on earth would God want to reconstruct our bodies? Just because you 'want' another physical body is not a reason for God to give you another one.

It is also not supported by the Bible that God will reconstruct our physical bodies that died.

1 Corinthians 15 New Living Translation​

​

44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.​

​

51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!​

A spiritual body is not a physical body.
A transformation is not a reconstruction.

What you are describing is not the resurrection that is going to happen.

The following quote explains what happens to our body and our spirit (soul) when we die physically. It's pretty straightforward and was written by a bible-believing Christian.

The Resuscitation of Man from the Dead and His Entrance into Eternal Life

421. When the body is no longer able to perform the bodily functions in the natural world that correspond to the spirit’s thoughts and affections, which the spirit has from the spiritual world, man is said to die. This takes place when the respiration of the lungs and the beatings of the heart cease. But the man does not die; he is merely separated from the bodily part that was of use to him in the world, while the man himself continues to live. It is said that the man himself continues to live since man is not a man because of his body but because of his spirit, for it is the spirit that thinks in man, and thought with affection is what constitutes man. Evidently, then, the death of man is merely his passing from one world into another. And this is why in the Word in its internal sense “death” signifies resurrection and continuation of life. Heaven and Hell, p. 351

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was, and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

you think you know the bible , LOL

 

[Jimmy]

Imo when theists and atheists die there is nothing after that. There’s only one man whose death will create change for all the dead and the living, in my opinion.

 

[Trailblazer]

you think you know the bible , LOL

you think you know the bible , LOL

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

you think you know the bible , LOL

I find the accusation against you ironic when I consider my interactions with others who are in the same Christian sect as the person who accused you.

 

[ChristineM]

We'll, not to interfere but that doesn't mean that God cannot reconstruct our bodies.

Nor does it mean a god exists.

May be difficult to digest but God knows every hair on our head

If a god exists then how do you know?

P.S. it's not reincarnation. It's called a resurrection

In your opinion, in mine (and that of science) atoms are reused, not resurrected

 

[YoursTrue]

It is my personal opinion based upon my personal meditation on the occult.

that settles it then. And of course, your journeys into the occult can't be wrong (or deceptive) -- right?

 

[ChristineM]

that settles it then. And of course, your journeys into the occult can't be wrong (or deceptive) -- right?

Just as correct as your religious journeys