Question for Jews

[FearGod]

My original thread asked what did Jews bow to given Catholics (as so corrected) bow to the Eucharist and Muslims (as so corrected) bow towards Kaaba (for point purposes).

Now I see you and Tumah debate over kissing a wall and I think wait, Muslims do the same thing or near the same manner as when you pray and face the floor. You and Jews aren't using the floor/wall as a means to replace god. Nor are you both using the floor/wall as a means to god. I'm sure that Muslims prostrations are for humility and obedience not whether one's face is on the floor or not (the floor itself doesn't matter). Likewise, I'd assume even though the Wall matters to Jews, that doesn't mean their humility and obedience went from going to god to a wall.

Both of you two are in the same boat when using prostrations, directions, objects, locations, etc as part of, means of, and use of your worship. I don't understand how both of you don't see your similarities rather than fuss at your differences.

I wish this was a religious debates section or moved there if there was more a respectful chat over this because there are points in Tumah's posts that are direct and I'm still puzzled how you don't see the similarities in what he is saying and what you believe regardless of your religious belief differences.

No similarities, all floors are the same for us, no specific floor to stand on and to pray
except if we have to pray hanging on the air so no need for a floor.

The western wall is a specific wall and Jews won't do the same for any wall, so they worship
for that only wall, hope that is clear to you.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

There are similarities. Kaaba is specific so as the ppace Mahammad rests. Your worship doesnt have to be the same for practitioners to have the same meaning of reverings via objects, locations, and/or people as any other religion. Jews are no more unique than a Muslim and a Pagan. Thats inter-faih talk. We are interelated. We are not aliens to each other.

I wasnt raised religious, so I can see the similarities. Its beautiful when the people who follow their beliefs dont argue about how much they disagree.

 

[metis]

No similarities, all floors are the same for us, no specific floor to stand on and to pray
except if we have to pray hanging on the air so no need for a floor.

The western wall is a specific wall and Jews won't do the same for any wall, so they worship
for that only wall, hope that is clear to you.

Jews do not worship the wall but worship at the wall plus a great many other locations worldwide. Even though people have explained to you in some detail what actually is done, you repeatedly just ignore them and spout more anti-Judaistic bigotry.

If you don't like worshiping and the wall, then let me recommend that you not go and worship at the wall. Problem solved.

 

[FearGod]

Jews do not worship the wall but worship at the wall plus a great many other locations worldwide. Even though people have explained to you in some detail what actually is done, you repeatedly just ignore them and spout more anti-Judaistic bigotry.

If you don't like worshiping and the wall, then let me recommend that you not go and worship at the wall. Problem solved.

I'm only discussing facts and nothing more, I don't care what the wall is to you,
but to me it's just a wall and nothing else.

 

[metis]

I'm only discussing facts and nothing more, I don't care what the wall is to you,
but to me it's just a wall and nothing else.

Goody-goody for you, so maybe it's time for you to mind your own business and not tell others how stupid they are.