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Question for the Evangelical Community

Raj V

Member
I believe basically the main belief is that the Holy Spirit works through believers, so worship should center around that. The idea is to wait for someone to receive from the Holy Spirit and say something. There is generally no singing unless it comes from the Spirit and no preaching and therefore no preacher. Also there tends to be a lack of ordinances since those tend to come more from institutionalized worship than Spirit worship.

There are eunuchs, fools , serpents or a combination of them going by the label Christians. All that is necessary has been revealed by Jesus 2000 years ago. Holy Spirit is primarily one of Truth. You refuse to heed to simple, direct commandments of Jesus and make up theologies to avoid doing what you have been commanded to do. Repent and walk perfectly. You make a mockery of Christ and Christianity.
 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
There is only ONE religion that pleases God, Ephesians 4:3-6. If we want to have a future we must all find that one, the ONE that the Bible describes,at 1Corinthians 1:10, 26-31

Not one of the verses you referenced say anything about religion. Those verses are what witnesses use to portray themselves as the only true religion. What about the following verse, your thoughts?

James 1:27 (ESV Strong's) 27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
There are eunuchs, fools , serpents or a combination of them going by the label Christians. All that is necessary has been revealed by Jesus 2000 years ago. Holy Spirit is primarily one of Truth. You refuse to heed to simple, direct commandments of Jesus and make up theologies to avoid doing what you have been commanded to do. Repent and walk perfectly. You make a mockery of Christ and Christianity.

I believe, since you have addressed me directly, you should know that I keep the commandments of Jesus.

I believe I do not.

I believe I already do this.

I believe that is a false accusation.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
I realize answers may vary greatly, but in your church, how much time is spent teaching the congregation how one is saved, breaking the scriptures down and giving a full lesson? Is this topic largley left alone because it's so simple and "understood", or does your leadership treat this topic as something they really want their congregations to understand well? This is not a thread on how one gets saved. I want to understand how different evangelical leaderships handle teaching this topic.

Thank you.


If the church leaders did break down the scriptures to give a full lesson, people would soon learn that they were not being given the truth.
This is why church leaders skip about the scriptures that they themselves and the people are held in blindness.

This is what Jesus called, The blind leaders of the blind. That if the blind leads the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
question for the evangelical community.

In the book of Revelation God has given the last and final Prophecy to happen.

That when this last and final Prophecy happens Christ Jesus returns.

What is the last and final Prophecy, That God has given in the book of Revelation.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
question for the evangelical community.

In the book of Revelation God has given the last and final Prophecy to happen.

That when this last and final Prophecy happens Christ Jesus returns.

What is the last and final Prophecy, That God has given in the book of Revelation.

i believe this is it:
Rev. 22:20 ¶ He who testifieth these things saith, Yea: I come quickly. Amen: come, Lord Jesus.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
i believe this is it:
Rev. 22:20 ¶ He who testifieth these things saith, Yea: I come quickly. Amen: come, Lord Jesus.


The last and final Prophecy to happen. Is in Revelation chapter 11.
Notice that when the two witnesses of God lay died in the street Rev 11:8.

Then after 3/12 days God calls them back up to heaven. Rev 11:11-12.

Then after the two witnesses ascended up to heaven. The 7th trumpet sounded and Christ Jesus returns. Rev 11:13-15.

Note in verse 15, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and his Christ, and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Because Christ Jesus is Lord of lords. And King of Kings.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
All the disciples and including Paul taught people from the Old Testaments Scriptures all because all the New Testament Scriptures had not been written yet.

As the disciples Written to all the churches, the churches started to compile what the disciples had written, Which we now have the New Testament.

In the Old Testaments is where the New testament is concealed.
In the New Testaments is where the Old Testaments are being Revealed.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
My question is In the book of
Matthew 5:17-19.
Which law do you believe Jesus is referring to ?
In the context that seems apparent to me, the entire Mosaic Law-- all 613 of them.

But if one looks at some other verses from Jesus, they say that he ended the Law. To me, this inconsistency may speak of the fact that the Tanakh states that the Law cannot be ended and that anyone who says that it can is in essence a "false prophet". OTOH, he does say some other things that indicates he felt some of the Law was unimportant to follow.

I have a theory as to why he might not have actually been contradicting himself. Interested?
 

e.r.m.

Church of Christ
If the church leaders did break down the scriptures to give a full lesson, people would soon learn that they were not being given the truth.
This is why church leaders skip about the scriptures that they themselves and the people are held in blindness.

This is what Jesus called, The blind leaders of the blind. That if the blind leads the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
Thank you. I find it hard to believe though that any leaders are intentionally deceiving others. I think it's more likely they are first deceive themselves.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
The last and final Prophecy to happen. Is in Revelation chapter 11.
Notice that when the two witnesses of God lay died in the street Rev 11:8.

Then after 3/12 days God calls them back up to heaven. Rev 11:11-12.

Then after the two witnesses ascended up to heaven. The 7th trumpet sounded and Christ Jesus returns. Rev 11:13-15.

Note in verse 15, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and his Christ, and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Because Christ Jesus is Lord of lords. And King of Kings.

I believe then you are talking about the last prophesied event not the last prophecy given in the Bible.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
I believe then you are talking about the last prophesied event not the last prophecy given in the Bible.


No I am referring to the last Prophecy to happen in the book of Revelation.that when this Prophecy happens Christ Jesus returns and not until this last Prophecy happens.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Thank you. I find it hard to believe though that any leaders are intentionally deceiving others. I think it's more likely they are first deceive themselves.

I believe most churches refrain from teaching the gospel to children. Most of the time they just do OT stories like Daniel in the lions den. May be the death of Jesus on the cross is too horrible for a child's mind although it can handle being eaten by lions and burning up in a fiery furnace. Then again Daniel was saved from the lions and Shadrach & company from the fire but Jesus was not saved from the cross.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
No I am referring to the last Prophecy to happen in the book of Revelation.that when this Prophecy happens Christ Jesus returns and not until this last Prophecy happens.

I believe this event comes after the coming of Jesus and it does mention the end:
Rev 16:17 ¶ And the seventh poured out his bowl upon the air; and there came forth a great voice out of the temple, from the throne, saying, It is done:
18 and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunders; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since there were men upon the earth, so great an earthquake, so mighty.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
I believe this event comes after the coming of Jesus and it does mention the end:
Rev 16:17 ¶ And the seventh poured out his bowl upon the air; and there came forth a great voice out of the temple, from the throne, saying, It is done:
18 and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunders; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since there were men upon the earth, so great an earthquake, so mighty.

No this Prophecy happens before Christ Jesus returns.
This Prophecy is which brings about the Return of Christ Jesus.
This being the last Prophecy that God gave in the book of Revelation.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
No this Prophecy happens before Christ Jesus returns.
This Prophecy is which brings about the Return of Christ Jesus.
This being the last Prophecy that God gave in the book of Revelation.

I believe you need to show a basis for your belief. I believe you ought to remember that events in Rev are not necessarily serial.
 
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