Question to Bahais. The Maitreya.

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Quran says Mohammad is seal of Prophets. Baha'allah says it means all Prophets are each other, Adam is last Prophet, Mohammad is Adam, type meaning, they are all last Prophet and first Prophet meaning.

Bab says 1000 years before the one God will manifest after him. Baha'allah interprets it to mean something, something, but then uses the exact same verse and says "whoever interprets it other then me other then it's apparent meaning, then don't follow him" (something like that).

Maitreya says well the apparent meaning is that no one other then a manifestation of God can interpret it, just as he interpreted Babs words in that apparent way, so it's the apparent meaning, but only a Prophet is to interpret it.

And so my question to Bahais. Why don't they accept Maitreya?

He "verifies"- "all Prophets" like your Baha'allah and includes Baha'allah.

Have you read his text? What makes you think his text is not from God? How do you know it's not your hearts not seeing the light?

 

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Quran says Mohammad is seal of Prophets. Baha'allah says it means all Prophets are each other, Adam is last Prophet, Mohammad is Adam, type meaning, they are all last Prophet and first Prophet meaning.

Bab says 1000 years before the one God will manifest after him. Baha'allah interprets it to mean something, something, but then uses the exact same verse and says "whoever interprets it other then me other then it's apparent meaning, then don't follow him" (something like that).

Maitreya says well the apparent meaning is that no one other then a manifestation of God can interpret it, just as he interpreted Babs words in that apparent way, so it's the apparent meaning, but only a Prophet is to interpret it.

And so my question to Bahais. Why don't they accept Maitreya?

He "verifies"- "all Prophets" like your Baha'allah and includes Baha'allah.

Have you read his text? What makes you think his text is not from God? How do you know it's not your hearts not seeing the light?

I don't know but I would suspect Buddhism is seen as being outside the Abrahamic tradition. Baha'i still sees itself within the Abrahamic tradition.

Just curious, not saying this is the answer.

 

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Quran says Mohammad is seal of Prophets. Baha'allah says it means all Prophets are each other, Adam is last Prophet, Mohammad is Adam, type meaning, they are all last Prophet and first Prophet meaning.

Bab says 1000 years before the one God will manifest after him. Baha'allah interprets it to mean something, something, but then uses the exact same verse and says "whoever interprets it other then me other then it's apparent meaning, then don't follow him" (something like that).

Maitreya says well the apparent meaning is that no one other then a manifestation of God can interpret it, just as he interpreted Babs words in that apparent way, so it's the apparent meaning, but only a Prophet is to interpret it.

And so my question to Bahais. Why don't they accept Maitreya?

He "verifies"- "all Prophets" like your Baha'allah and includes Baha'allah.

Have you read his text? What makes you think his text is not from God? How do you know it's not your hearts not seeing the light?

From a Baha'i perspective Baha'u'llah was the Maitreya.

Regards Tony

 

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I don't know but I would suspect Buddhism is seen as being outside the Abrahamic tradition. Baha'i still sees itself within the Abrahamic tradition.

Just curious, not saying this is the answer.

This guy just claims he is another Prophet. He goes by the Maitreya.

 

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From a Baha'i perspective Baha'u'llah was the Maitreya.

Regards Tony

But all manifestations are that too aren't they?

 

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But all manifestations are that too aren't they?

On that note, can't be be just a return of ba'ahallah meaning?

 

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I don't know but I would suspect Buddhism is seen as being outside the Abrahamic tradition. Baha'i still sees itself within the Abrahamic tradition.

Just curious, not saying this is the answer.

As a Baha'i I see Buddha in the same light as Abraham, Moses, Zoroaster, Jesus and Muhammad, to name a few.

Regards Tony

 

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But all manifestations are that too aren't they?

Yes and in Christianity that is known as the return of Christ. They are the First and the Last, the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End.

They, One and All are the Light of Allah we can experience in this Matrix. They One and all are all we can know of Allah. To them One and All, we submit.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

This guy just claims he is another Prophet. He goes by the Maitreya.

Please post a link to His Message.

Regards Tony

 

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On that note, can't be be just a return of ba'ahallah meaning?

Another thought to consider is that the Light of Allah is available to all, we can all reflect that light. The danger is, that light can make us consider we are more than we are, it can make us consider we are a Messenger of Allah, but it is only Allah that sends the Messengers.

The Bible and all scripture thus warns there are many false prophets.

That will also help us understand why many people close to Baha'u'llah thought they were the source of the light, but it was the light of Baha’u’llah that was being reflected in them.

Regards Tony

 

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Please post a link to His Message.

Regards Tony

Here is his official website.

english-thoth - Mission of Maitreya

He has replies to Bahais in Q/A.

 

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Another thought to consider is that the Light of Allah is available to all, we can all reflect that light. The danger is, that light can make us consider we are more than we are, it can make us consider we are a Messenger of Allah, but it is only Allah that sends the Messengers.

The Bible and all scripture thus warns there are many false prophets.

That will also help us understand why many people close to Baha'u'llah thought they were the source of the light, but it was the light of Baha’u’llah that was being reflected in them.

Regards Tony

Agreed.

And this means, we should emphasize on both, that there are true Prophets and fake Prophets. To show who we follow is from God, takes some evidence and mental clarity. The Quran I believe has many miracles. When read in Arabic, it's obvious the rhythm alone is from God. Forget the meaning, just the musical tone of it, is from God.

Then with meaning, there is subtle eloquence as well. And it's even more of a miracle when meaning to Ahlulbayt (a) is known and how their words compliment Quran. And how they go together.


However, I will want to see how you compare his writing and analyze it (Maitreya) and see it's not from God.

This is important too. That we recognize frauds of Prophethood, lest the True Prophets are equated with the false ones.

 

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Here is his official website.

english-thoth - Mission of Maitreya

He has replies to Bahais in Q/A.

Thank you for that, the first look found a page for external donations. That is always a consideration for me.

Regards Tony

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Agreed.

And this means, we should emphasize on both, that there are true Prophets and fake Prophets. To show who we follow is from God, takes some evidence and mental clarity. The Quran I believe has many miracles. When read in Arabic, it's obvious the rhythm alone is from God. Forget the meaning, just the musical tone of it, is from God.

Then with meaning, there is subtle eloquence as well. And it's even more of a miracle when meaning to Ahlulbayt (a) is known and how their words compliment Quran. And how they go together.


However, I will want to see how you compare his writing and analyze it (Maitreya) and see it's not from God.

This is important too. That we recognize frauds of Prophethood, lest the True Prophets are equated with the false ones.

The Quran is our life and Light. It is indeed the ultimate miracle of life to us all.

I will look at this tonight, sorry have to get ready to go to work.

@loverofhumanity may be able to offer some thoughts, as he has had more to do with Buddhism than I have.

Regards Tony

 

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This guy just claims he is another Prophet. He goes by the Maitreya.

All Religions have a Promised One. In Islam it is said Mahdi. In Buddhism Scriptures, the Buddha talks about a future Buddha who will come at the End period of Time. Buddha says, name of this promised One is Maitreya.
It is like Islam who has a promised One, named Mahdi.
In Bahai view, Bahaullah is the Primised One of all Religions.

There have been many who claimed to be Mahdi, Messiah, and also Buddha and Maitrya. So, of you see someone is saying he is Maitrya, it means he is claiming to be the promised One of Buddhism. Just as if you see someone says he is Mahdi.

 

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All Religions have a Promised One. In Islam it is said Mahdi. In Buddhism Scriptures, the Buddha talks about a future Buddha who will come at the End period of Time. Buddha says, name of this promised One is Maitreya.
It is like Islam who has a promised One, named Mahdi.
In Bahai view, Bahaullah is the Primised One of all Religions.

There have been many who claimed to be Mahdi, Messiah, and also Buddha and Maitrya. So, of you see someone is saying he is Maitrya, it means he is claiming to be the promised One of Buddhism. Just as if you see someone says he is Mahdi.

Yeah but to you guys, there's more to come. So how do you know he is not another Mahdi?

 

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Agreed.

And this means, we should emphasize on both, that there are true Prophets and fake Prophets. To show who we follow is from God, takes some evidence and mental clarity. The Quran I believe has many miracles. When read in Arabic, it's obvious the rhythm alone is from God. Forget the meaning, just the musical tone of it, is from God.

Then with meaning, there is subtle eloquence as well. And it's even more of a miracle when meaning to Ahlulbayt (a) is known and how their words compliment Quran. And how they go together.


However, I will want to see how you compare his writing and analyze it (Maitreya) and see it's not from God.

This is important too. That we recognize frauds of Prophethood, lest the True Prophets are equated with the false ones.

In Bahai view, it is impossible for a false prophet to write verses and commands and claim this is a new commandments from God. God does not allow that to happen. I am not saying it is not possible for someone to be charlatan. There has been many false Prophets and false Mahdis and false Messiahs. But, none of them brought a new Book which it's verses claim to be Words of God.
I believe this is also what Quran teaches, when it says if Muhammad was making up anything from himself, then surely Allah would cut his vein.
So, now, let's go back to OP. This person who claims to be Maitreya, does He claim that His words are new commands and ordinances from God?

 

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So, now, let's go back to OP. This person who claims to be Maitreya, does He claim that His words are new commands and ordinances from God?

Yes he does.

 

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Yes he does.

Show me please.
Just find one example in the history of mankind that a false prophet wrote a Book, and its verses claim to be words of God. Then quote it here.

 

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Show me please.
Just find one example in the history of mankind that a false prophet wrote a Book, and its verses claim to be words of God. Then quote it here.

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