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Question to Christians: is Jesus Yahweh?

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Question to christians: do you believe jesus is Yahweh\YHWH?
It was Solomon who posed the question, 'But will God indeed dwell on the earth?' [1 Kings 8:27] And in 2 Chronicles 2:6 Solomon says, 'But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him?'

The answer to Solomon's question is that no stone temple is great enough to contain the God of heaven. God is SPIRIT [John 4:24] and God is holy. 'There is none holy as the LORD' [1 Samuel 2:2]

According to the New Testament, in coming to dwell on earth, God has chosen a woman, Mary, and has brought about conception in her through a miracle. The ovum in Mary was fertilized and she carried a human baby for nine months until its birth. The baby was then named 'Jesus'. The baby was flesh and blood. He had a body, soul and spirit.

In John 3:6, Jesus says, 'That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.' This indicates that Jesus was both a man born of flesh and (following baptism) the Spirit of God without 'measure' [John 3:34]. It is, therefore, accurate to say that Jesus Christ was fully man and fully God. The two combined make Jesus Christ (on earth) the true MEDIATOR between God and men.

At crucifixion, Jesus died. His body died, his soul descended into the grave, and his Spirit returned to God (from whence it came). It cannot, therefore, be said that Jesus was ONLY God (Spirit) on earth, because he clearly had a body that died on the cross. The body that was resurrected three days and nights later was not the old body of flesh and blood. It was a body in the process of being spiritually transformed. At Ascension, a spiritual body ascended to heaven. Moreover, the soul of Jesus, indistinguishable in will and purpose from the Spirit of God, ascends with the spiritual body to God's throne in heaven.

IMO, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all the Spirit of ONE GOD. The Father is above, the Son amongst, and the Holy Spirit within.

The orthodox Christian position is that God has come to earth to dwell amongst men, but to do so he has had to make himself a body of flesh and blood. Into this earthly vessel was poured the 'fulness of the Godhead bodily' [Colossians 2:9].
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
IMO, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all the Spirit of ONE GOD. The Father is above, the Son amongst, and the Holy Spirit within.

In the Acts of the Apostles, by the Evangelist Luke, there is an account -substantially historical but embellished with legend- of the execution in Jerusalem of the first Christian martyr, the Hellenist Stephen, who was said - in words echoing Jesus - to have been "using blasphemous language against Moses and against God...against this Holy Place and the Law." In his defense speech, probably edited by Luke himself on the basis of the material, Stephen gives a general description of Israel's salvation history from the call of Abraham to the prophets and as a justification of his Christian faith, appeals expressly to "the God of your ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob," who appeared to Moses. Only in the last two sentences does he mention - without naming him - the murder of Jesus. Immediately after the condemnation - just before his own death - he had a vision: "Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at God's right hand. ' I can see heaven thrown open', he said, 'and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God." Here Father, Son and Holy Spirit are mentioned together, or - as Luke puts it - God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is at his side, in Stephen himself. The invisible force and power proceeding from God fills him entirely and thus opens his eyes: in the Spirit, heaven is shown to him. But God himself remains hidden. Only his "glory" (Hebrew kabod, Greek doxa) is visible: God's brightness and power, the brilliance of the light that proceeds from him. But Jesus does not sit: he stands, not of course in front of God but at his right hand: that is, in the same power and glory.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Many christians believe Jesus is God (Yahweh/YHWH) because they believe Jesus has the same substance/being as God the Father. So they believe the Father, Jesus and Holy spirit share the same divine Being. That God is only one Being shared by three persons

I don't believe "shared" is a valid concept. God doesn't share. He always is Himself in all three persons.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Yahweh is God. The one God who created the universe/universes. That is my belief.

And i believe God is only one person. I do not believe in the trinity

The Trinity is Biblical fact whether you believe in it or not and that does not alter the fact that God is one.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
The Trinity is Biblical fact whether you believe in it or not and that does not alter the fact that God is one.
And that is why the Trinity cannot be found in the Bible?
Oops, I forgot. You can make the Bible say anything you want it to say by interpreting verses any way you want to.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Alive on earth or alive in heaven? I believe that Jesus is alive in heaven in a spiritual body.

That was not relevant to you but to someone who doesnt believe in anything metaphysical but thinks making remarks like "make a call to Jesus" good argument.
 
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