Not quite.
As you know, God never appears, never says, never does. It's [his] followers who appear, say and sometimes do.
So you'll see that I addressed the OP to the RF people here, not to God.
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Questions for God
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As you know, God never appears, never says, never does. It's [his] followers who appear, say and sometimes do.
So you'll see that I addressed the OP to the RF people here, not to God.
RestlessSoul
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Right, I see. So you haven’t set a trap for God, it’s His followers you’re hoping to catch out.
What do you think that’ll prove?
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
All of these questions are answered using scripture. If scripture is considered authoritative, then I can answer. If not, then, you can create your own answers. None will be right and none will be wrong.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
God knows only as much as it's particular human controller knows.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Not true.
Omniscience is a consequence of a being which is absolutely literally infinite.
yes...
no. An all-knowing God knows what it is like not to know, just as it knows 3-wheeled-bicycles, and non-dairy milk. It's just a contradictory concept like any other.
Another way of considering it, is from the perspective of a creator-god which is similar to the author of a book. The author can write a book where the protagonist is deaf-mute, but the author themself is neither deaf nor mute. A creator-god can create the conceppt "absence of knowledge" and then it knows "the absence of knowledge" while still remaining to be all-knowing itself. "Absence of knowledge" is just a concept like any character in any book by any author. The book in this analogy is "reality".
Here's a specific example: the flux-capacitor from Back-to-the-future. It's a concept which the screenwriter created. A creator god can create any concept. One of those concepts could be "what it's like not to know". Once the creator-god creates it, it knows it. It knows "what it's like not to know" because it created it. It's as simple as that.
Contradiction resolved.
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Perhaps someone will learn something.
Perhaps someone will be less bored for a few minutes.
Perhaps someone will think about the questions and start a new religion.
Perhaps God will appear and state [his] position, and then a whole other lot of gods will appear and state their respective positions. However, that's both the most interesting and the least likely outcome, I'd say.
Maybe by asking, what I don't know?
Maybe because he remembers the day before it?
Maybe by that people are too evil and stupid to imagine Him?
I would have only one question, what's the game with childhood leukemia?
If a god could answer that then other questions i have would already be answered.
If a god could answer that then other questions i have would already be answered.
Colt
Well-Known Member
God is Truth!
God inhabits the circle of infinity apart from time.
God created the brain of the human so that goes without saying.
Finites are derivatives of the First Source and Center, the "I Am". Finites will never know all that God is. No matter how far we progress in knowing God, there will always be more to discover. IMOP
"God is the first truth and the last fact; therefore does all truth take origin in him, while all facts exist relative to him." UB 1955
chinu
chinu
Maninthemiddle
Active Member
Do you know what all knowing is.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe God knows what He can know so He refers to Himself as the ancient of days. So last Thursday is out of the question.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe it takes a while to catch up with things using this vessel.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe He is not the universe since He created the universe.
So you think we can safely rule omniscience out?
Nah, [he] was spontaneously brought into being like the rest of the universe with memories of yesterday, indeed [his] entire past, installed.
That would account for why none of the churches appears to have a description of [him] appropriate to a real being, one with objective existence, no?
Really? Where does it explain how God knows there's nothing [he] doesn't know [he] doesn't know?
Or does [he] freely admit there are things [he] doesn't know?
Whereas in the real world ...
Perhaps whoever it was who was asked to summarize the bible in two words got it right.
As my questions suggest, I have trouble with the usual answers.
It's all very well to claim to be all-knowing, but the claim isn't credible if we don't have an answer to my question on knowing in the OP.
No, when the universe spontaneously sprang into existence last Thursday, God came to exist with [his] memories from everlasting to everlasting all in place. In just the same way, we all remember parents, family, friends, being young, going to school, and so on.
Or else [he] spontaneously sprang into existence last Thursday thinking that [he] made the universe.
For me, 'truth' is a quality of statements, and a statement is true to the extent that it corresponds with / accurately reflects objective reality.
What definition of 'truth' are you using here?
I respect your right to believe as you think best, but these are the RF debate boards.
So for me, a materialist, the "circle of infinity" doesn't correspond with what is found in the world external to the self ("reality").
And the human brain is the end product of 3.5 billion years or more of evolutionary trial and error.