One possible explanation.
https://arxiv.org/abs/1404.1207
I wouldn't bother reading it if i were you, it'll just fly over your head.
I know of two more, and 30 other hypothesis
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Questions that evolutionists and billions of years proponents cannot answer but disprove their theories.
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One possible explanation.
https://arxiv.org/abs/1404.1207
I wouldn't bother reading it if i were you, it'll just fly over your head.
I know of two more, and 30 other hypothesis
SavedByTheLord
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That violates cause and effect.
Just nonsense.
Just a form of circular reason.
It has to spontaneously come into being because since it exist something must have happened.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
Why do you continue to ask these questions when you said that evolution is false and no one can defend it?
Shesh how could cause and effect exist before the universe that gave rise to cause and effect existed?
Not nonsense but mathematical genious based on known phenomena that you refuse to try to comprehend
Nope, nothing circular in the paper that you didn't read.
Jeez really. You have no idea what a vacuum bubble is have you?
SavedByTheLord
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Absolute nonsense.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Then what caused God?
SavedByTheLord
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Always a good question.
God has no beginning by the very nature of God.
So those that believe in God have the ultimate uncreated being.
The equivalent would be a universe that had always existed.
The difference is an intelligent being vs something that would not have intelligence .
Living things prove that the source of everything has an intelligence.
Subduction Zone
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I do not know. I do not need to know. That has nothing to do with this discussion.
But even though I do not know for sure I can ask you a question that may have the answer:
What is south of the South pole?
Subduction Zone
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The universe may have always existed.
How do living things prove an intelligence? No logical fallacies allowed.
Subduction Zone
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I didn't say or imply that there was nothing before the Big Bang.
Subduction Zone
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Cause and effect may not exist on that scale. There is no "Law of cause and effect".
Subduction Zone
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Once again, how do living things prove an intelligence?
SavedByTheLord
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Cause and effect are a cornerstone for the laws of physics and sanity.
Subduction Zone
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No, only for physics on the every day level. Try working in quantum physics. It appears that your mind would be driven insane by it. It is not "cause and effect". The mover in quantum physics is probability. For example the timing of radioactive decay appears to be uncaused. We can give a probability of it occurring within a timespan, but no "cause" for it to occur when it occurs.
Just because you have no comprehension does not make it nonsense, it just means you do not understand it.
The laws of physics, including cause and effect coalesces some time after the bb and is only valid for classical physics (atomic scale and above) it is not even a thing at the quantum level
SavedByTheLord
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So you do not understand cause and effect.
What existed before the universe?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
That is a poorly asked question.
And no, you do not understand cause and effect. You do not understand its limits.
SavedByTheLord
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What caused the universe to come into existence?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Talk to an astrophysicist. I would probably get it wrong.
Why does it matter? You need to be able to justify your questions. If you cannot do so no one has an obligation to answer them.
I can give you my best understanding, but I will not guarantee that it is right. From my understanding the universe has always existed.
SavedByTheLord
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Your theories are promoted as the gospel truth. Only one fact overturns it.
and it is now on the scrape heap of infamy.
No one remains an evolutionist for long as they die and meet the Creator.
And in the not too distant future, no living person will be one also.
Not when Christ rules for 1000 years with a rod of iron.