What version?
Let me ask you this, should this law be implemented in a country which claim to be a democratic one?
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What version?
Let me ask you this, should this law be implemented in a country which claim to be a democratic one?
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Is the United States undemocratic for having Rape by deception ('Rape by fraud') in states such as California, Tennessee, Alabama and Michigan?
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Your melodrama about racist Israeli Jews.
lol, you no longer have any argument so you are putting words into my mouth now?
Dan, you are way better than that.
Punnchy
Member
*face paws as well*Weird.
As if a sexual act ever could be considered rape when both partners are adults and act consensually.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Well, with all due respect Tashan.
this was your post:
The 'Jewish state', also found a Jewish man to be guilty of rape by deception in 2008, and the same judge in the case we discuss here has obviously delt harsh sentences to Jews for insulting Muslims. did any European judge sentence a European cartoonist for 2 years of prison for drawing a caricature of Muhammad and thus offending Muslims feelings?
well this Israeli judge did. the same judge who is now being accused to represent the racism inherit in the Israeli system.
perhaps, its just possible that this judge is already known to be a hardliner and to hold provocative sentences, regardless of the ethnic identity of the accused.
Bottom line - this judge was wrong.
Judges judge people for legal purposes, of course. They have authority to decree fines, sentences and other penalities. That is their differential.
Actual judgement calls are, of course, far more general. And that is a good thing too; people shouldn't rely on others' calls as a matter of course.
Smokeless Indica
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Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
I think its more complicated than that. the publicity of this case made it take off to all kinds of realms.
Accusations of prejudice or racism have been repeatedly voiced, while ignoring quite an interesting scope of information, about other cases of 'rape by deception' inside Israel itself, or the US, and ignoring the personal history of the judge which proves that he sentenced Jews to even more hard terms for doing to Muslims what many would say was far less offenstive than this case.
People didnt simply say 'the judge was wrong', they projected on the entire Israeli system of law with questionable accusations half rooted in hype.
Smokeless Indica
<3 Damian Edward Nixon <3
Yeah, I know. I was just trying to KISS (Keep It Simple Sweetie).
I thought KISS stood for Keep It Simple Stupid...
Mr.Lost
Mr.Lost
so are you blind too or does your religion let you judge people? Excuse my lack of knowledge in the different religions.
So you truly believe the law says if you're drunk you're responsible for all actions? Again - why do we have date rape laws? Again - you're wrong. Again - I'll await your personal attack.
It takes blindness not to realize that people should think of their own, don't you agree? I personally don't think even the common understanding is correct about christians avoiding judging others. They should instead be aware that they, too, will be judged in turn.
Just like everyone else, really. Making judgements is a basic social necessity.
He is wrong because he is claiming rape where there is none. Simple as that.
Despicable as the man's behavior was, it falls way short of rape.
Mr.Lost
Mr.Lost
''t takes blindness not to realize that people should think of their own, don't you agree?'' Wow that is so wrong. How could you say that! Every hear of good karma. Helping some one just because they need help. why are you even on theses forums then??
Sorry, but I can't make heads or tails of what you just said.