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Ratcheting back a notch or two?

Engyo

Prince of Dorkness!
Obama-Hitler Billboard Covered Up In Iowa
by NPR Staff and Wires
July 14, 2010

A billboard in Mason City, Iowa, created by a conservative Tea Party group comparing President Obama to Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Lenin has been removed.

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Kent Beatty, the general manager of the company that owns the downtown billboard, says a North Iowa Tea Party representative called Tuesday night and asked that the sign be covered over. Beatty says his company replaced the sign Wednesday morning with a public service announcement.

The original sign showed photographs of Obama, Nazi leader Hitler and communist leader Lenin beneath the labels "Democrat Socialism", "National Socialism", and "Marxist Socialism."

Some Tea Party members criticized the sign, and North Iowa Tea Party co-founder Bob Johnson acknowledged that the pictures overwhelmed the intended message of anti-socialism.

The sign only went up last week, but quickly drew attention in the news media and on the Internet. It is the latest in a series of anti-Obama billboards that have popped up around the nation in recent months.

Others included a sign in Minnesota that featured a photo of former President George W. Bush and the question "Miss Me Yet?" Also in Minnesota, a sign reading "Remember real home and change?" had an image of former President Ronald Reagan. In Dallas, former President Jimmy Carter's face appeared with a "Miss Me Yet?" billboard.

Obama-Hitler Billboard Covered Up In Iowa : NPR
 

Joe_Stocks

Back from the Dead
I am wondering where this cautious tone was when Bush was compared to Hitler by lefty protesters.

As a right-winger myself I believe the billboard is stupid, but I don't really care that it was put up.
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
I don't get why people put up boards like these, only an idiot would buy into that kind of propaganda/crap.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
I am wondering where this cautious tone was when Bush was compared to Hitler by lefty protesters.

As a right-winger myself I believe the billboard is stupid, but I don't really care that it was put up.
I don't really care for those on the left comparing Bush to Hitler either, Joe. I'm wondering though if those on the left were putting billboards dipicting that. Maybe there were and I just haven't seen them.
 

T-Dawg

Self-appointed Lunatic
I am wondering where this cautious tone was when Bush was compared to Hitler by lefty protesters.

As a right-winger myself I believe the billboard is stupid, but I don't really care that it was put up.

Well, for one thing, if you use a little hyperbole, you'll actually find similarities between Bush and Hitler (ie, having a hatred of communists, using the need for "security" as justification for decreasing civil liberty, being put into power by conservatives who thought they could control him [they were wrong in the case of Hitler], and some perceive Bush as being racist. Also, similarities can be drawn between 9/11 and the burning of the Reichstag.).
Obama, on the other hand, not so much.
 

Joe_Stocks

Back from the Dead
Hi Mister T,

Good to talk to you again.

I don't really care for those on the left comparing Bush to Hitler either, Joe

Good, we agree then.

I'm wondering though if those on the left were putting billboards dipicting that. Maybe there were and I just haven't seen them.

The liberal protesters probably didn't feel the need for a billboard as they were deciding which camera crew to make their case that Bush was destroying democracy as I'm sure NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, and MSNBC were most likely all there making their message go out to much wider audience than a silly billboard.

Chalk this up to the liberal protesters; they are smarter than their conservative counterparts. Liberals have been protesting long before conservatives have gotten in on it. Unfortunately for the conservative protesters I'm sure they are fewer media outlets covering the protest so last resort is a billboard.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I am wondering where this cautious tone was when Bush was compared to Hitler by lefty protesters.

I don't know. Can you give us a few examples of when Bush was compared to Hitler, and we can figure out the discrepancy?

As a right-winger myself I believe the billboard is stupid, but I don't really care that it was put up.

Why don't you care?
 

Joe_Stocks

Back from the Dead
Hi T-Dawg,

Well, for one thing, if you use a little hyperbole, you'll actually find similarities between Bush and Hitler (ie, having a hatred of communists, using the need for "security" as justification for decreasing civil liberty, being put into power by conservatives who thought they could control him [they were wrong in the case of Hitler], and some perceive Bush as being racist. Also, similarities can be drawn between 9/11 and the burning of the Reichstag.).

LOL! That's rich. Yeah, Bush was such an authoritarian and racist that he allowed a black liberal to succeed him as president and he peacefully left office in accordance with rules of the Constitution.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I read about this just a little while ago, and I was pleasantly surprised. Finally a move in the right direction by some Tea Partiers. Although, the cynical side of me wonders whether this was orchestrated just to get more publicity. The sign was bad enough, but now we have this major article about it that's getting it even more attention.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Chalk this up to the liberal protesters; they are smarter than their conservative counterparts. Liberals have been protesting long before conservatives have gotten in on it. Unfortunately for the conservative protesters I'm sure they are fewer media outlets covering the protest so last resort is a billboard.

Yeah, damn that liberal media. :rolleyes: Sorry to break it to you, but there is no conspiracy against the right by the media. I'm sure it makes you feel better to think that, but it's simply not true.
 

Joe_Stocks

Back from the Dead
Hi mball,

I don't know. Can you give us a few examples of when Bush was compared to Hitler, and we can figure out the discrepancy?

Google it and you'll find all the evidence you need.

Why don't you care?

Why would why? Some people think that Obama is like Hitler and Stalin, some liberals believed that Bush was also like Hitler. Big whoop.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Can you give us a few examples of when Bush was compared to Hitler....?

Here's one:

Well, for one thing, if you use a little hyperbole, you'll actually find similarities between Bush and Hitler (ie, having a hatred of communists, using the need for "security" as justification for decreasing civil liberty, being put into power by conservatives who thought they could control him [they were wrong in the case of Hitler], and some perceive Bush as being racist. Also, similarities can be drawn between 9/11 and the burning of the Reichstag.).
Obama, on the other hand, not so much.

I posted a whole bunch for Darkness on another thread.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
Good to talk to you again too, Joe. :)

Joe Stocks said:
The liberal protesters probably didn't feel the need for a billboard as they were deciding which camera crew to make their case that Bush was destroying democracy as I'm sure NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, and MSNBC were most likely all there making their message go out to much wider audience than a silly billboard.
However true or untrue that may be, you can always change the channel or just not watch either of those channels. It's a little bit harder to tune out a billboard for one, not to mention that billgoards are supposed to be used for advertising, not cramming a group's extremist views down people's throats.

Joe Stocks said:
Chalk this up to the liberal protesters; they are smarter than their conservative counterparts. Liberals have been protesting long before conservatives have gotten in on it. Unfortunately for the conservative protesters I'm sure they are fewer media outlets covering the protest so last resort is a billboard.
More media outlets -- which is really debatable when you factor in ALL the media outlets, like radio, the web, etc. -- doesn't really mean much when your outlets that you have are louder, more agressive and hysterical than all of the other opposing outlets combined.
 

Joe_Stocks

Back from the Dead
Hi mball,

Yeah, damn that liberal media. :rolleyes: Sorry to break it to you, but there is no conspiracy against the right by the media. I'm sure it makes you feel better to think that, but it's simply not true.

The media is liberal that is a fact attested to by Bill Clinton. And I'm not arguing that there is a conspiracy so that is a straw man.
 

Joe_Stocks

Back from the Dead
Hi Mister T,

However true or untrue that may be, you can always change the channel or just not watch either of those channels. It's a little bit harder to tune out a billboard for one, not to mention that billgoards are supposed to be used for advertising, not cramming a group's extremist views down people's throats.

You also can simply ignore the message on the billboard. As far as getting your message out, I would put billboards pretty low on the list.

More media outlets -- which is really debatable when you factor in ALL the media outlets, like radio, the web, etc. -- doesn't really mean much when your outlets that you have are louder, more agressive and hysterical than all of the other opposing outlets combined.

I think the point is (which goes to the broader point I am making against the OP) is that only conservatives are the only 'divisive' ones. When liberals compare Bush to Hitler there is no outcry about liberals being 'divisive' or 'extreme' but when some conservatives get extreme in their rhetoric then we are all told to take a deep breath. It's all very interesting.
 

Joe_Stocks

Back from the Dead
Hi Intern,

Obama is more of a moderate. In fact, part of his problem now is that he is more to the centre than some of his support base (including me) want him to be.

Just because Obama is not as liberal as you doesn't mean that he is not a liberal.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Hi T-Dawg,



LOL! That's rich. Yeah, Bush was such an authoritarian and racist that he allowed a black liberal to succeed him as president and he peacefully left office in accordance with rules of the Constitution.

Excuse me, but where is the relationship? GWB did not have the prerrogative to refuse to give up presidency, nor to choose his own successor in defiance to the result of the elections.

That he chose not to attempt a coup is very poor evidence that he is not authoritarian or racist.
 
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