Reasons for believing in the Bible as the literal word of God.

[Subduction Zone]

lol. what @Trailblazer said is true. she didn't say what "proof" is. She isn't defining "proof". You are, but she isn't.

She is giving an example of what proof isn't.

Again, this is your delusion and your problem. You cannot understand what "negation" is. You are oblivious to the "void". Being "oblivious" means you are possessed with something which produces the oblivion. This has strange and somewhat unpredictable consequences. One of them is happening right now.

Yes, she said that if the evidence is not verifiable it is not proof. She said, and I quote one more time:

"Evidence is not proof unless it is verifiable evidence."


Why did you ignore my quote of her? Once again you demonstrate incredible poor reading comprehension. Or didn't you understand that quote of her.

But if you want to go with that I do cannot complain too much. I have verifiable evidence against both the creation myths and against the flood myths. In other words since you appear to agree with her you just admitted that I can "prove" that those events did not happen.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You can SAY whatever you want to say, but that does not mean it is not evidence.
Evidence for God is what God provides as evidence.
God provides Messengers as evidence.
Therefore Messengers are the evidence for God.

You can deny that till the cows come home, but that will not change reality.

Are you not listening now? You can claim it as "evidence" but it is extremely week evidence. People that deny that is is evidence have a point to since it is so weak that no rational person would be convinced by it.

Evidence that can be refuted by a "So what?"

 

[Audie]

So you're calling me (and all atheists, apparently) a liar and a con artist without any demonstration of such.
Welcome to my ignore list. Grow up.

Being accused of being evil for something
he made up- that got iglist for good.

Seemingly odd behaviour, all the falsehoods,
accusations, derogatory remarks, etc for one
claiming some sort of allegiance to ""god".

Except not really. It's common as dirt.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Being accused of being evil for something
he made up- that got iglist for good.

Seemingly odd behaviour, all the falsehoods,
accusations, derogatory remarks, etc for one
claiming some sort of allegiance to ""god".

Except not really. It's common as dirt.

I have found that believing in a god often enables that sort of behavior. When an atheist behaves poorly they cannot say that they did so because their god wanted them to. And to give these people the freedom that they need for their behavior they will often defend any immoral behavior of their gods. The religious that do not have such a fundamentalist faith seem to try to follow the positive lessons in their book and try to ignore the evil action in their holy books. They definitely do not follow them.

 

[Trailblazer]

Are you not listening now? You can claim it as "evidence" but it is extremely week evidence. People that deny that is is evidence have a point to since it is so weak that no rational person would be convinced by it.

Are you not listening now? I claim it as "evidence" because that is what it is since that is what God provided as evidence.
Any rational person would look at the evidence that God provided, because they'd know there is no other way to get evidence for God.

 

[dybmh]

Thank you for admitting that you were wrong again. And I am not trying to refute anything, but thank you for admitting to your own dishonesty.

ignored.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Are you not listening now? I claim it as "evidence" because that is what it is since that is what God provided as evidence.
Any rational person would look at the evidence that God provided, because they'd know there is no other way to get evidence for God.

Yes, I am listening. Are you? Your "evidence" is extremely weak. That is why so many claim that it is not evidence. That is not me denying evidence, it is explaining to you why your claims of evidence were denied or ignored by those that are reasoning rationally.

 

[Subduction Zone]

ignored.

Once again, thank you.

 

[Trailblazer]

Evidence that can be refuted by a "So what?"

A "So what?" doesn't refute anything.
That is because personal opinions don't refute anything.

 

[dybmh]

I have found that believing in a god often enables that sort of behavior. When an atheist behaves poorly they cannot say that they did so because their god wanted them to.

Freudian slip:

When an atheist behaves poorly, they cannot say that they did so, because their god wanted them to.... behave poorly.

Yup. You cannot admit is, because your god wanted you to behave poorly. Perfect. 100% true.

And to give these people the freedom that they need for their behavior they will often defend any immoral behavior of their gods.

Not God, capital G. You don't know what you don't know, which is a lot. All of your arguments are faux-atheism, preaching your faux-gospel. Which is not the actual gospel of God. Anytime the actual gospeol s brought, the faux-atheist, bows down, sets up an altar to their god, and starts their song and dance routine.

Do you know that Ba'al Peor desired human fecies? You're posts are like offerings to that god. It desires your waste. And you keep bringing it.

The religious that do not have such a fundamentalist faith seem to try to follow the positive lessons in their book and try to ignore the evil action in their holy books. They definitely do not follow them.

Of course we do. You don't know the stories, you don't do the morals. You're gospel is not my gospel. Don't insert your religion, into my religion.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Being accused of being evil for something
he made up- that got iglist for good.

Seemingly odd behaviour, all the falsehoods,
accusations, derogatory remarks, etc for one
claiming some sort of allegiance to ""god".

Except not really. It's common as dirt.

Well, that's what happens when you fall into the "void" of "orgies" ... or whatever.

 

[dybmh]

Once again, thank you.

I can keep dishing out ignores. I learned it from your religion. See? I understand how your religion works, and I can employ it at will. While you seem to be a slave to it.

 

[dybmh]

Being accused of being evil for something
he made up- that got iglist for good.

Seemingly odd behaviour, all the falsehoods,
accusations, derogatory remarks, etc for one
claiming some sort of allegiance to ""god".

Except not really. It's common as dirt.

But you're still reading my posts and still replying to them. So... what you did was meaningless. As usual.

 

[dybmh]

Are you not listening now? You can claim it as "evidence" but it is extremely week evidence. People that deny that is is evidence have a point to since it is so weak that no rational person would be convinced by it.

Evidence that can be refuted by a "So what?"

None of that matters as much as the fact that you didn't read what she actually said. Cherry picked a sentence out. Removed all context and misrepresented it so you could preach some BS about proof, that was completely irrelevant.

preaching faux-atheism.

 

[Trailblazer]

Your "evidence" is extremely weak. That is why so many claim that it is not evidence.

That "so many" argument will not help your case, it only hurts your case. Who are the so many? A few atheists on this forum?

84 percent of the world population has a faith and because most faiths have a religious Founder or what I call a Messenger that means most people believe in God because of a Messenger. It does not matter if you call them a Messenger; they are holy men who founded the religions, so they are intermediaries between God and man. Sure, there are a few believers who believe in God but not a Messenger but that is not the norm.

The point is that with no men who act as "intermediaries" between God and man very few people would believe in God.

 

[dybmh]

Yes, I am listening. Are you? Your "evidence" is extremely weak. That is why so many claim that it is not evidence. That is not me denying evidence, it is explaining to you why your claims of evidence were denied or ignored by those that are reasoning rationally.

no, you were babbling about "proof" when @Trailblazer had already said in the very first sentence that she was not bringing "proof".

 

[Audie]

Well, that's what happens when you fall into the "void" of "orgies" ... or whatever.

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I don't do idioms or cultural references very well.

 

[SkepticThinker]

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I don't do idioms or cultural references very well.

I don't get the references either. That's why it's so bizarre. mean, I think he's accusing atheists of engaging in sexual intercourse with multiple sexual partners at once. including Satanists or something, but I don't know.

 

[dybmh]

I don't get the references either. That's why it's so bizarre.

The satanists like the idea that they can manipulate an atheist, specifically an ex-Christian to "lose their inhibitions" and do things which are counter to what is considered normal. One of those sorts of things is participating in orgies. Which is something that had been promoted around here by an atheist, who had partnered up with satansists, and occurs virtually in the private EROS forum. There is a satanist who posts here who did this, somewhat recently. But it will be difficult to find the post because, they, I'm guessing, hide their profile. It was a rule violation to post what they did. Maybe it was taken down. I literally don't know.

@Subduction Zone behaves as someone who is easily influenced and motivated and probably manipulated by physical gratification. Put simply, physical sexual pleasure is inspiring to him. So, it is evidence of a demon of which a person can be completely ignorant. You asked for evidence, and I am bringing you some.

The manner that these "treatment resistant demons" operate is similar. It's actually a cooperation among them, and it's the same sort of demon that you appear to be possessing.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The satanists like the idea that they can manipulate an atheist, specifically an ex-Christian to "lose their inhibitions" and do things which are counter to what is considered normal. One of those sorts of things is participating in orgies. Which is something that had been promoted around here by an atheist, who had partnered up with satansists, and occurs virtually in the private EROS forum. There is a satanist who posts here who did this, somewhat recently. But it will be difficult to find the post because, they, I'm guessing, hide their profile. It was a rule violation to post what they did. Maybe it was taken down. I literally don't know.

@Subduction Zone behaves as someone who is easily influenced and motivated and probably manipulated by physical gratification. Put simply, physical sexual pleasure is inspiring to him. So, it is evidence of a demon of which a person can be completely ignorant. You asked for evidence, and I am bringing you some.

The manner that these "treatment resistant demons" operate is similar. It's actually a cooperation among them, and it's the same sort of demon that you appear to be possessing.

Amazing. Most Christians number the commandment that bans bearing false witness as number nine. It does not appear to exist in your version of the Torah.