Religion = Blind Faith ?

[angelasantos_24]

Blind faith, to me, is pursuing a goal or dream without realistic consideration to whether it's possible or not.

 

[Midnight Pete]

Christianity is not the bench-mark, is just the easiest to ridecule when we see things like this.

Ridecule? I think you mean ridicule.

 

[crimsonlung]

Ridecule? I think you mean ridicule.

Oh come on, do you really need to correct the man's spelling? This isn't a college writing class.

 

[horiturk]

it always struck me as idiotic to believe all the ridiculous claims in the bible simply because you read them there

 

[crimsonlung]

it always struck me as idiotic to believe all the ridiculous claims in the bible simply because you read them there

I agree, especially considering there is absolutely no proof any of it is true to any fraction. And logically, it makes no sense.

 

[dogsgod]

Not all religions require blind faith.
No every religious person follows blindly.
And importantly, a lot of religious people purport to experience 'miracles' or mysticism in their lives, even today.

I truly believe that yogis and mystics exist even now. And the religion I follow places emphasis on learning techniques that lead to knowledge of a Divine presence. Faith is not emphasised at all.

It requires blind faith to believe that there is such a thing as a Divine presence in the first place.

 

[crimsonlung]

It requires blind faith to believe that there is such a thing as a Divine presence in the first place.

Frubals! This is true, if there was a Divine Presence, it would be studied in a laboratory.

 

[horiturk]

I agree, especially considering there is absolutely no proof any of it is true to any fraction. And logically, it makes no sense.

don't get me wrong i believe that there must be at least one God,but i'm really a deist in my way of thinking. i just don't think God interferes or speaks directly to us

 

[darkendless]

Oh come on, do you really need to correct the man's spelling? This isn't a college writing class.

Cheers, i'm an engineer and not a writer

 

[InvestigateTruth]

If you think about it, all religions are based on blind faith. There is not a shred of real life to anything in the Bible, in the Torah, in the Koran.

The Baha'i Faith does not accept the concept of 'blind faith'. It emphasizes on 'Independent investigation of truth.

Baha'u'llah emphasizes the fundamental obligation of human beings to acquire knowledge with their "own eyes and not through the eyes of others." One of the main sources of conflict in the world today is the fact that many people blindly and uncritically follow various traditions, movements, and opinions. God has given each human being a mind and the capacity to differentiate truth from falsehood. If individuals fail to use their reasoning capacities and choose instead to accept without question certain opinions and ideas, either out of admiration for or fear of those who hold them, then they are neglecting their basic moral responsibility as human beings. Moreover, when people act in this way, they often become attached to some particular opinion or tradition and thus intolerant of those who do not share it. Such attachments can, in turn, lead to conflict. History has witnessed conflict and even bloodshed over slight alterations in religious practice, or a minor change in the interpretation of doctrine. Personal search for truth enables the individual to know why he or she adheres to a given ideology or doctrine.

The Independent Investigation of Truth

Where are the miracles today? You ask a Christian or a Muslim that, you will get a half baked answer about the religious times being over.

"The outward miracles have no importance for the people of Reality. If a blind man receives sight, for example, he will finally again become sightless, for he will die and be deprived of all his senses and powers. Therefore, causing the blind man to see is comparatively of little importance, for this faculty of sight will at last disappear. If the body of a dead person be resuscitated, of what use is it since the body will die again? But it is important to give perception and eternal life—that is, the spiritual and divine life. For this physical life is not immortal, and its existence is equivalent to nonexistence. So it is that Christ said to one of His disciples: “Let the dead bury their dead;” for “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”



most of the miracles of the Prophets which are mentioned have an inner significance. For instance, in the Gospel it is written that at the martyrdom of Christ darkness prevailed, and the earth quaked, and the veil of the Temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom, and the dead came forth from their graves. If these events had happened, they would indeed have been awesome, and would certainly have been recorded in the history of the times. They would have become the cause of much troublings of heart. Either the soldiers would have taken down Christ from the cross, or they would have fled. These events are not related in any history; therefore, it is evident they ought not to be taken literally, but as having an inner significance.
Our purpose is not to deny such miracles; our only meaning is that they do not constitute decisive proofs, and that they have an inner significance.
In the Gospel of St. John, chapter 6, verse 26, it is written: “Ye seek Me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled.” " Abdulbaha - Some Answered Questions.

Don't you think the people of the times of Noah would of kept that arc in a Museum or at least have some piece of it?

The Baha'i belief regarding the Arc and Noah is that, it is a symbolic story. The 'Arc' symbolizes the Faith or Religion that was created through the revelation of Noah. The Flood was the symbol of the water of loving kindness and knowledge that came from God and people were saved by the water.

Or what about the cross Christ was allegedly crucified on, don't you think they would have that kept somewhere?

the Cross is just from a long time ago. maybe someday it is found. who knows.

 

[waitasec]

Oh come on, do you really need to correct the man's spelling? This isn't a college writing class.

if anything, it shows how this was an attempt to change the subject
it can get pretty uncomfortable when ones faith is proven to be unreasonable...

 

[Madhuri]

It requires blind faith to believe that there is such a thing as a Divine presence in the first place.

Not necessarily...

 

[zenzero]

Friend crimsonlung,

Religion = Blind Faith ?

FAITH will always be BLIND as it inbuilt.
Religion on the other hand is never BLIND; As it is a way which either you know it or ask your direction or get a guide or you stay back.
meaning even the physically blind finds their way.

Love & rgds

 

[weirdpuckett]

If you think about it, all religions are based on blind faith. There is not a shred of real life to anything in the Bible, in the Torah, in the Koran. Where are the miracles today? You ask a Christian or a Muslim that, you will get a half baked answer about the religious times being over. Or, you will get the "But your heart is beating and the grass is growing" answer. Why did all the mysticism and elaborate stories such as Noah and his Arc conveniently happen at a time where we cant prove its existence?

Don't you think the people of the times of Noah would of kept that arc in a Museum or at least have some piece of it? Or what about the cross Christ was allegedly crucified on, don't you think they would have that kept somewhere? Its not every day a man comes back to life, and I guarantee you if something like that happened today, it would be historically preserved. We have hieroglyphs from BC still intact that tell a useless story about a king, but the son of the thing that created humankind comes down to Earth, dies, comes back to life, and we have nothing to prove it but a book that says it happened.

It seems that all religions require a leap of blind faith which is disguised as a "relationship with god."

Thoughts?

Good point but let me make one that will probably help you . . .When Jesus walked earth and performed Miraculous things (raising the dead, making blind see,casting evil out etc.) these events were seen by the very men that hung Him up on a cruel cross . . .so your "seeing is believing" angle doesn't work anyway . . .That is one major condition that Jesus revealed . ..That the problem with unbelief is a poor condition of the human heart and not the "eyes". Faith is what will save you. and what is faith? Faith is the hope for things UNSEEN . . .. Jesus Himself said (while on earth) A wicked generation (of people) seeks a "sign."So, if you be one who waits for a "sign" or "Miracle" -when they have already taken place in the scriptures,then your own heart is what testifies to God that you do not believe Him or the faithful servants who DIED to deliver the precious message of salvation!

The things you can "see" are the ones who the ruler of this world (Satan) uses against people to trap them . . .afterall .money and Idols can be "seen" right? You saw what happened to The people at the bottom of mount sinai -they got impatient while waiting for Gods instructions from Moses so they made "a god they could see" a calf of gold- what great trouble fell upon them for their lack of "faith" huh?!

From scriptures we are told that in the end days great ,false "miracles" and "deceptive wonders" will be shown to everyone causing them to worship a false god and believe lies and cause the wrath of the true God to again be poured out on us, for the commands are the same today as always-He is the same God yesterday as He is today and will ever be . ..if He hated it then -He hates it now . . ..Does the world promote God or the things they themselves made? Do they weary themselves for God or to work as slaves for another? Where is Gods honor? He is the greatest King ever! He Who designed all of us- Who honors Him? look at the world and ask these questions . ..Will I give honor to worthless things and withold it from God? I won't. I will honor God and His Son Jesus who has inherited all that is His Fathers-Earth and it's peeps! He desires Love in return for His great Love and I am willing to give Him it-if that is a source of "tension" for the rest of His children-I don't care . . . .for if they are so stoney in their hearts as to hang Jesus up for no sins, what will be their treatment for worthless little me who does much wrong? No servant sits at the masters table without the master first sitting and eating right? So I must serve and not eat until that time comes . . . .then I too will eat WITH the master of the House and drink New Wine with Him at the wedding feast!