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Religion
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sandandfoam
Veteran Member
I know it doesn't fit with the dictionary meaning - but to me religion is the pursuit of an understanding of that which is not physical.
BucephalusBB
ABACABB
So atheism is a religion? or a single thought?
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
If it were my atheism, then it would be to me. Obviously I cannot speak for anyone else.
whereismynotecard
Treasure Hunter
Atheism might be a religion... My definition would be some sort of belief system to try to explain things... I guess atheism doesn't really try to explain things... Nihilism sure doesn't.
TurkeyOnRye
Well-Known Member
A central belief system that attempts to explain the purpose of life and/or the state of our reality by utilizing personal experience rather than traditional scientific means.
By the word "religion" I stand under a group of people engaging in practices that they feel will promote a better or 'right' relationship with creator-diety or "God" or the world around them.
Phasmid
Mr Invisible
Bull****.
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friends,
Thank you all for your responses.
Friend Phasmid is presently under attack from a bull and so ?
This is a topic that we are all involved in everyday, every moment BUT still none knows exactly what it is. Most dictionaries offer meanings which are rigid and religion has to be something which is like life always changing.
The explation that could be offrered from an understanding that Man eveolevd on this earth and then due to his developed mind which started thinking for the first time as till humans arrived no other being had the capacity to think. This Thinking is such an activity that as soon as the mind starts to think the individual is cut off from rest of existence. Those who understood the phenomenon then had the task of making others understand the phenomenon BUT again by reading most cannot understand or grasp the subject. So they prescribed a certain path they were familiar depending on the common intelligence denominator and this PATH or WAy is called a religion. This can be individual or group / s. Each PATh / WAy leads to the same experience.
This explation of RELIGION is the simplest understood; however at RF there are many who might have something to add or subtract and would like everyone to contribute their thoughts on the subject.
Love & rgds
Thank you all for your responses.
Friend Phasmid is presently under attack from a bull and so ?
This is a topic that we are all involved in everyday, every moment BUT still none knows exactly what it is. Most dictionaries offer meanings which are rigid and religion has to be something which is like life always changing.
The explation that could be offrered from an understanding that Man eveolevd on this earth and then due to his developed mind which started thinking for the first time as till humans arrived no other being had the capacity to think. This Thinking is such an activity that as soon as the mind starts to think the individual is cut off from rest of existence. Those who understood the phenomenon then had the task of making others understand the phenomenon BUT again by reading most cannot understand or grasp the subject. So they prescribed a certain path they were familiar depending on the common intelligence denominator and this PATH or WAy is called a religion. This can be individual or group / s. Each PATh / WAy leads to the same experience.
This explation of RELIGION is the simplest understood; however at RF there are many who might have something to add or subtract and would like everyone to contribute their thoughts on the subject.
Love & rgds
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
My so-called "religion" emanates from my Being. It is more like ripples on a pond than steps on a path. My "path" arcs outward in all direction simulataneously, so I don't quite know how to translate that into stagnant linear terms, my friend. In a sense, I am the way and I am the leader, not the follower. This perspective puts my action in the present (where it belongs) whereas if I chose to "follow" then I would be existing in the "past". Better to Be, Here Now, imho. ((Amusingly, I have to go now to continue making my new pathways... (quite literally with cement, shale and conglomerate rocks) in the new gardens I am creating). It is a parcel of land about 100 feet by 75 feet, lol. I will say that it adds a delicious new dimension to the concept of concretizing reality!)
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend YmirGF,
Sorry, you missed the point here.
This discussion about defining Religion is only for people who have not reached. Who themselves have not become the WAY.
If you wanted others to follow you what or how you are going to do so?
Tell them a method to enable them to be a Light unto Themselves?
Then that method becomes a WAy / A Path and that is what Religion is; that is what am trying to establish.
Your comments?
Love & rgds
n.b. Best wishes to your Zen garden.
Sorry, you missed the point here.
This discussion about defining Religion is only for people who have not reached. Who themselves have not become the WAY.
If you wanted others to follow you what or how you are going to do so?
Tell them a method to enable them to be a Light unto Themselves?
Then that method becomes a WAy / A Path and that is what Religion is; that is what am trying to establish.
Your comments?
Love & rgds
n.b. Best wishes to your Zen garden.
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
Greetings!
Literally, the re-connection ("religere," "re-linking") of humanity to God.
And to a lesser extent, also the relinking of humans to each other.
Peace,
Bruce
Literally, the re-connection ("religere," "re-linking") of humanity to God.
And to a lesser extent, also the relinking of humans to each other.
Peace,
Bruce
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I'd tell them that they do not need to listen to me but perhaps they might think about learning to meditate. I would tell them that "the Light" already burns within them, brighter than a billion suns, and that meditation will strengthen their focus so they may see what they have always been. I guess I am saying is all they need to do is sit quietly and simply allow themselves to Be. No thoughts, no worries, just being -- right here, right now.
It is great fun. Today I was visited by 9 deer over the afternoon, including two adorable fawns. The 10th dear of the day (a big buck) was just nibbling the hedge (up on his hind legs) showing spectacular antlers. He is now sitting calmly on the otherside of the fence 30 feet away and I can see him as I type. Sweet!
Super Universe
Defender of God
Religion is a system of control that uses it's own idea of the Creator as it's mascot.
The_Her3tiK
Free Thinker
Atheism tries to explain things under the premise that no god(dess) was involved, due to a lack of scientific evidence that such an entity exists.
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend YmirGF,
If you tell others or point at meditation as the WAy then that is the RELIGION you are talking about.
One needs to religiously involve in the process and get into the state of meditation.
There is no problem in understanding when someone says: *Sitting doing Nothing; and the green grass grows by itself* BUt those who need a PATH a WAY a RELIGION for them need to first define what is religion and that is exactly what am trying to clarify.
Note: Kindly get some pictures of the deer and fawns and post them here.
Friend BruceDlimber, Understand what you state. Yes, surely it is RE-connecting.
Friend Super Universe, Religion is all about the Creator and the Created becoming ONE.
Love & rgds
If you tell others or point at meditation as the WAy then that is the RELIGION you are talking about.
One needs to religiously involve in the process and get into the state of meditation.
There is no problem in understanding when someone says: *Sitting doing Nothing; and the green grass grows by itself* BUt those who need a PATH a WAY a RELIGION for them need to first define what is religion and that is exactly what am trying to clarify.
Note: Kindly get some pictures of the deer and fawns and post them here.
Friend BruceDlimber, Understand what you state. Yes, surely it is RE-connecting.
Friend Super Universe, Religion is all about the Creator and the Created becoming ONE.
Love & rgds
SimonCross
Member
Hello to all
What is religion?
In one sense that would depend on the concept of what a person's thoughts are. In a way ask 10 people and I would think that you would get 10 different answers. The guy who said it was bull, that could be called a religion because in one sense he expressed an act of belief saying that it was all bull.
Religion as I look at it is a set of belief's, and practices that often are centered upon specific supernatural, moral claims about reality the cosmos, and human nature, through prayer and ritual, and relgious law. And the most important idea that it can bring one closer to God of our hearts.
With Blessings
Simon Cross
What is religion?
In one sense that would depend on the concept of what a person's thoughts are. In a way ask 10 people and I would think that you would get 10 different answers. The guy who said it was bull, that could be called a religion because in one sense he expressed an act of belief saying that it was all bull.
Religion as I look at it is a set of belief's, and practices that often are centered upon specific supernatural, moral claims about reality the cosmos, and human nature, through prayer and ritual, and relgious law. And the most important idea that it can bring one closer to God of our hearts.
With Blessings
Simon Cross
zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend SimonCross,
Yes, simply put stating that a religion is a path a way.
Buddhists follows the PATH / WAY of the * 8 fold path *
Christians follow the * 10 Commandments *
etc.
We all take different PATHS / Roads to reach Rome from our places of stay. Friend Phasmid may be living in Spain or Mexico and so mentioned attacked by * Bulls* but all roads following the bull or taming the bull the zen way each one reaches rome / goal / god / no -mind / samadhi / nirvana / zannat / heaven [ each word may vary in meaning and degrees but used broadly for understanding only].
This is ONE, here all are ONE, no differences. If we understand the goal being one for all humans then why not understand each other? break down all differences.
Love & rgds
Yes, simply put stating that a religion is a path a way.
Buddhists follows the PATH / WAY of the * 8 fold path *
Christians follow the * 10 Commandments *
etc.
We all take different PATHS / Roads to reach Rome from our places of stay. Friend Phasmid may be living in Spain or Mexico and so mentioned attacked by * Bulls* but all roads following the bull or taming the bull the zen way each one reaches rome / goal / god / no -mind / samadhi / nirvana / zannat / heaven [ each word may vary in meaning and degrees but used broadly for understanding only].
This is ONE, here all are ONE, no differences. If we understand the goal being one for all humans then why not understand each other? break down all differences.
Love & rgds