Religions favourite argument

[viole]

Yeah i get that. But one has to distinguish between the wishes of people and actual reality. people might wish for rain and the weather god wont send any rain. does that mean the weather god doesnt exist? nope. people might conceive of a present-bringer as a wish but does that mean that a present-bringer actually exists? no.

Of course not. That would be a non sequitur.

The problem, of course, is that if the weather God has the same hit ratio as my iPad, then I have no logical reason to privilege the weather God against my iPad, when I pray for rain. For, I cannot exclude, that my iPad, or some invisible fairy in my garden, are equally effective in bringing rain when I ask them. Who can say?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

Of course not. That would be a non sequitur.

The problem, of course, is that if the weather God has the same hit ratio as my iPad, then I have no logical reason to privilege the weather God against my iPad, when I pray for rain. For, I cannot exclude, that my iPad, or some invisible fairy in my garden, are equally effective in bringing rain when I ask them. Who can say?

Ciao

- viole

well it would be more rational to ask the 'weather' god for rain since that is the field of area the weater god is supposed to cover ...

 

[Quintessence]

And probably Thor creating lighnings made sense, when humanity was five.

What a remarkable display of prejudice against polytheism!

No worries. You and pretty much everybody else in Western culture thinks the same sort of rot.

 

[viole]

What a remarkable display of prejudice against polytheism!

No worries. You and pretty much everybody else in Western culture thinks the same sort of rot.

I can assure that my prejudice (or, more correcly, postjudice) against polyteism is the same as for monotheism.

Ciao

- viole

 

[viole]

well it would be more rational to ask the 'weather' god for rain since that is the field of area the weater god is supposed to cover ...

So, would that be more rational to ask the invisible fairy in my garden to grow some nice lettuce?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

So, would that be more rational to ask the invisible fairy in my garden to grow some nice lettuce?

Ciao

- viole

exactly.

 

[viole]

exactly.

Exactly? Does it mean "yes"?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

Exactly? Does it mean "yes"?

Ciao

- viole

It means youve understood the path of simple paganism, in your response, to some degree.

unless you want it to mean no, i dont understand why you would want confirmation,

 

[groves200]

Nope. i am saying that it is possible to deliver presents to all children in the world, once we give one individual the powers to do exacly that.

You do not need omnipotence to do Santa work. Maybe he can deliver presents all over the world, but he cannot shave. Who knows?

Ciao

- viole

Just say you believe in Thor, it would save a lot of your time Meanwhile you can also believe in the tooth fairy and Flying pink unicorns. Science can't prove neither exist so why not? heh

 

[groves200]

Probably not the sort of senseless, religion-bashing rubbish you're looking for.

Enlighten me, please. If there is some particular non-religious bashing rubbish that you find amusing then share your thoughts otherwise you're in the wrong thread and have nothing to say here.

 

[viole]

It means youve understood the path of simple paganism, in your response, to some degree.

unless you want it to mean no, i dont understand why you would want confirmation,

Oh no. i just wanted to be sure that you believe it is more rational to ask my invisible fairy in the garden for nice lettuce than,say, asking my iPad. Or the weather God.

Probably it is. Those pesky weather gods have no clue about what it takes to make a nice lettuce, or carrot.

But, again, that would entail that it is more rational to ask Santa about my next presents, than those weather gods or fairies. Right?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

Oh no. i just wanted to be sure that you believe it is more rational to ask my invisible fairy in the garden for nice lettuce than,say, asking my iPad. Or the weather God.

Probably it is. Those pesky weather gods have no clue about what it takes to make a nice lettuce, or carrot.

But, again, that would entail that it is more rational to ask Santa about my next presents, than those weather gods or fairies. Right?

Ciao

- viole

I guess. But you dont have to accept anything blidnly the society tells you to believe in. You should follow your own personal belief and what appears to be the most rational deity for you.

 

[viole]

I guess. But you dont have to accept anything blidnly the society tells you to believe in. You should follow your own personal belief and what appears to be the most rational deity for you.

The most rational deity to me is no deity. I acually think that a rational belief in a deity is oxymoronic.

Ciao

- viole

 

[McBell]

What's your favorite argument?

"you cannot believe until you believe."

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

The most rational deity to me is no deity. I acually think that a rational belief in a deity is oxymoronic.

Ciao

- viole

What are your arguments for that the best view is that there are no deities?

 

[McBell]

What are your arguments for that the best view is that there are no deities?

I do not know about viole, but for me it is the conspicuously lacking evidence.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

What's your favorite argument?

What about:

If atheism exemplifies mature, rational thought, why do so many atheists author adolescent threads such as this one?​

 

[McBell]

What about:

If atheism exemplifies mature, rational thought, why do so many atheists author adolescent threads such as this one?​

I was unaware that theists had some sort of monopoly on adolescence...

 

[Princeps Eugenius]

I do not know about viole, but for me it is the conspicuously lacking evidence.

because 'evidence' as you put it confirms to the naturalist viewpoint. what if some pagan made up a term called 'evidence' where the initial thought was that the weather god causes the weather and anything besides it was lacking evidence?

 

[McBell]

because 'evidence' as you put it confirms to the naturalist viewpoint. what if some pagan made up a term called 'evidence' where the initial thought was that the weather god causes the weather and anything besides it was lacking evidence?

What if my aunt had balls?
Would that make her my uncle?

See how fun the "what if" game can be?