Princeps Eugenius
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youre ignoring my point and ridiculing it with nonsense.
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McBell
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What was your point?
I flat out ask in hopes of getting a clear concise explanation that is not hiding in some absurd "what if" game stage.
Princeps Eugenius
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my point was that a pagan could label 'evidence' based on his worldview instead of what 'evidence' means today (ie a naturalistic explanation).
McBell
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Actually the word evidence means "that which convinces someone of something"
Princeps Eugenius
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nowadays it means 'naturalistic explanation' and you know percectly that this is the case.
McBell
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Do you even need me to post anything for you to continue with your rant?
I mean, why should I even post if you are merely going to dictate to me what I do and do not know, think, understand, etc.?
Princeps Eugenius
Active Member
so, according to you, what is a evidence?
McBell
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Princeps Eugenius
Active Member
Okay so the mere explanation that the weather deity causes the weather to occur one way rather than another doesn soothe you? how else do you explain wheather, if not through naturalistic means?
McBell
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It happens.
I do not understand why or how weather happens the way it happens.
When are you going to present evidence of this weather deity?
Princeps Eugenius
Active Member
1. Everything happens through the means of an agent,
2. weather happens
3. therefore weather happens through the means of an agent. (in this case the weather god)
McBell
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Until you support number one, you have nothing but a bold empty claim.
Princeps Eugenius
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thats easy all of my statements were made by an agent, how can you foresee this? all of our day to day life happens by the means of an agent.
Reality is what exists, regardless of what people wish for or believe in. That is the problem with religion. It encourages and teaches people to confuse their beliefs for reality and their confidence for knowledge.
Tom
Princeps Eugenius
Active Member
I dont think anybody, even ancient greek peasants, would desire to know that somewhere gigantic cyclops exists who desire to eat human flesh. its not a wish at all. but was still brought into the world.
McBell
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Supporting a bold empty claim with more bold empty claims does not help you any.
Princeps Eugenius
Active Member
are you saying that my statement arent made by an agent? are you high?
McBell
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I am saying that your attempt to support your weather agent by using yourself as an agent for your statements does not support your claim of a weather agent OR your claim that "all of our day to day life happens by the means of an agent."
Edit:
Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean.
Are you trying to say that because you are the agent in your statements and day to day life that you are also the agent that controls the weather?
But they did believe it, because of religion. They, like most modern people, believed what they were taught by their parents and community. Even when it was wrong. That is the foundation of religion. Believing what humans tell you, even though there is no evidence for the belief.
Tom
Princeps Eugenius
Active Member
who does your cooking? an agent. who does your shoping? an agent. who does your responding to this thread? an agent. who does create new things on the internet? an agent or several. who talks on the TV? agents. who makes weather forecasts? agents.... who does the weather itself? an agent.