(Religious Freedom) Now a crime in VA to attend services?

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Yes.
Any kind of interaction could, and probably will, result in the spread of the virus. And that spread will near certainly result in people dying. Possibly not even from the virus itself. If hospitals are overwhelmed by sick people, people could die simply because the hospital couldn't adequately care for everyone.

That's where people deliberately spreading the virus come in. Even if the people who get sick from spring break parties or church don't die, they're using up available health care and other resources.
People who get the virus while doing needful things, like grocery shopping, are like car wreck victims who get into an accident on their way to work. People who get the virus at a social gathering, like church or a concert, are like car wreck victims who get into an accident while driving drunk. They knew that they shouldn't do it, but decided to do it anyways.

The law says don't. The reason for that law is easily available. But some people decide that what they want matters more than the common good.


And it was once legal for Texans to own slaves. 'Nuff said.
Tom

In other words you're helping spread the virus and killing people. But you don't want those Christians spreading the virus and killing you. How silly.

Oh, so you're saying Texas law doesn't count. As I said, we can go to Church legally. Does that bother you? Why? Don't give me this bs that you are all concerned with people dying. You just dislike the idea that Christians are not afraid to meet...those who do meet.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[columbus]

In other words you're helping spread the virus and killing people. But you don't want those Christians spreading the virus and killing you. How silly.

Nope.
I'm pointing out that everyone needs to eat. That entails risk.

Insisting on adding to the risk is as irresponsible as driving drunk.
Everyone goes to work. Everyone runs the risk of transportation.
Not everyone drives home from a bar. Not everyone runs the risk of drunk driving.
Holding social gatherings, whether church or movies or sports events or whatever, is like driving while drunk. It's taking a huge risk, for people who aren't able to choose, for your own benefit.
Tom

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Nope.
I'm pointing out that everyone needs to eat. That entails risk.

Insisting on adding to the risk is as irresponsible as driving drunk.
Everyone goes to work. Everyone runs the risk of transportation.
Not everyone drives home from a bar. Not everyone runs the risk of drunk driving.
Holding social gatherings, whether church or movies or sports events or whatever, is like driving while drunk. It's taking a huge risk, for people who aren't able to choose, for your own benefit.
Tom

Christians need to meet. That entails risk.

Texas says it is essential. What is your problem?

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[columbus]

Christians need to meet. That entails risk.

Texas says it is essential. What is your problem?

Good-Ole-Rebel

Making people sick.
Including people who didn't even go to church with you.

So tell me.
If you had to choose between going to church and going ever place else(like the grocery and pharmacy), would you agree not to go anywhere but church? Would you pick church over everything else?
Tom

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Making people sick.
Including people who didn't even go to church with you.

So tell me.
If you had to choose between going to church and going ever place else(like the grocery and pharmacy), would you agree not to go anywhere but church? Would you pick church over everything else?
Tom

So, you admit, it doesn't matter if Christians can go to church legally. You don't want them to go because 'you' deem it unnecessary or non-essential. It doesn't matter what the law says.

Your scenario is non-existent. I can get food. I can go to Church.

Again, what is your problem? Guilt? Fear? Are you scared? Are you bothered that I am not scared?

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[McBell]

Christians have always accepted death at times as a result of their decisions. Now, answer my question in #(352). If your not 'scared'....

Good-Ole-Rebel

I never made any claim they did.
Or did not for that matter.

Seems you needs pay better attention to who you are replying to.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

I never made any claim they did.
Or did not for that matter.

Seems you needs pay better attention to who you are replying to.

Seems you should pay attention when you respond to a post not meant for you. But since you did, you need to step up to the plate and answer my question in #(352).

Unless you're scared.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[McBell]

Seems you should pay attention when you respond to a post not meant for you. But since you did, you need to step up to the plate and answer my question in #(352).

Unless you're scared.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Really?
Like you have stepped up and avoided answering the questions posed to you?

Your hypocrisy is off the charts.

Why are Christians here in Texas causing the death of others and those going to the grocery store, and hardware stores, and liquor stores, and doctors, and policeman, and fireman, and truck drivers, and etc. etc. etc. , are not?

Good-Ole-Rebel

Who says they are not?
I mean, other than you?

But then, you do not care a bit what I think because I am not a Christian, right?
Oh, but you do care what I think.
Otherwise you would not have gone to such lengths to elicit an answer.
So yeah, more hypocrisy on your part.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Really?
Like you have stepped up and avoided answering the questions posed to you?

Your hypocrisy is off the charts.


Who says they are not?
I mean, other than you?

But then, you do not care a bit what I think because I am not a Christian, right?
Oh, but you do care what I think.
Otherwise you would not have gone to such lengths to elicit an answer.
So yeah, more hypocrisy on your part.

It wasn't 'who says they are not'. The claim was made that Christians were causing the death of others when they meet. As though when others go out to stores or work, they are not.

So, does this apply to you also. When you go out, are you guilty of killing people by spreading the virus?

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[McBell]

Seems you should pay attention when you respond to a post not meant for you. But since you did, you need to step up to the plate and answer my question in #(352).
Unless you're scared.
Good-Ole-Rebel

Really?
Like you have stepped up and avoided answering the questions posed to you?
Your hypocrisy is off the charts.

Why are Christians here in Texas causing the death of others and those going to the grocery store, and hardware stores, and liquor stores, and doctors, and policeman, and fireman, and truck drivers, and etc. etc. etc. , are not?
Good-Ole-Rebel

Who says they are not?
I mean, other than you?

But then, you do not care a bit what I think because I am not a Christian, right?
Oh, but you do care what I think.
Otherwise you would not have gone to such lengths to elicit an answer.
So yeah, more hypocrisy on your part.


So, did I give you the opening you wanted?
Are you able to use my answer to play the victim some more?

*yawn*
oh those poor poor christians.
Being told they do not get special privileges means they are being so unfairly persecuted....

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[IndigoChild5559]

All the places listed are necessary for sustaining our physical lives. For the Christian we have our spiritual lives that are more important. You don't care for Church whether there is Corona or not. You are no different than the atheists and pagans.

No, Church cannot worship via Facebook and the same thing results. It is necessary to meet. If your Judaism lets you get your spiritual needs from a monitor, that is fine. The Christian needs the actual meeting. The ministry of the Holy Spirit through other believers. Oh...but you don't believe that. Thus your empty response.

Have you not understood that in Texas we can go to Church? What is your complaint?

Good-Ole-Rebel

I do appreciate the role church plays in spiritual nourishment. As a Jew, I'm am feeling the grievous loss of joining in in-person synagogue worship. Our Facebook prayer services don't even begin to replace it.

However, as I stated in my last post, saving lives comes FIRST. This is a temporary thing. We all must make the sacrifice.

If you in Texas are still allowed to meet, that's great, although I would still urge your church to consider social distancing out of consideration for others, before it is too late. At any rate, my understanding is that social gatherings in Texas are limited to 10 people, which should put a big dent into your worship services.

 

[Shad]

Christians need to meet. That entails risk.

Texas says it is essential. What is your problem?

Good-Ole-Rebel

They can use something called the internet. You know the system you are using right now.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

I do appreciate the role church plays in spiritual nourishment. As a Jew, I'm am feeling the grievous loss of joining in in-person synagogue worship. Our Facebook prayer services don't even begin to replace it.

However, as I stated in my last post, saving lives comes FIRST. This is a temporary thing. We all must make the sacrifice.

If you in Texas are still allowed to meet, that's great, although I would still urge your church to consider social distancing out of consideration for others, before it is too late. At any rate, my understanding is that social gatherings in Texas are limited to 10 people, which should put a big dent into your worship services.

Your statement, 'saving lives comes first' concerning our relationship to God, doesn't sound right. Sometimes there are things greater than our lives. Your Old Testament, and mine, is full of those examples. I believe them.

As an essential part of society, why would church service be limited to 10? Are only 10 people allowed to be in the grocery store at one time. Not hardly. Are only 10 people allowed to be working in the hospital at one time? Of course not.

We can be cautious yet still meet. We can meet in small numbers if we have to. The Holy Spirit can work through 10 also. And it is He who makes the worship service...worship. I have been in services with hundreds of believers, yet no presence of the Holy Spirit. And I have been in a service of just a few where the Holy Spirit was present. There is no comparison.

I appreciate the tenor of your post.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

They can use something called the internet. You know the system you are using right now.

The internet does not replace actual meeting.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Shad]

The internet does not replace actual meeting.

Good-Ole-Rebel

It can be used for meetings thus can be used as an alternative at this time

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

It can be used for meetings thus can be used as an alternative at this time

You can use it for whatever meeting you want. For the Christian it does not replace the actual gathering of believers for united worship towards God and Jesus Christ.

In other words the goal and purpose is not met through the internet.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Shad]

You can use it for whatever meeting you want. For the Christian it does not replace the actual gathering of believers for united worship towards God and Jesus Christ.

In other words the goal and purpose is not met through the internet.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Except it is a valid alternative in a time like this. Too bad a number of the religious are dangerous and incompetent

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Except it is a valid alternative in a time like this. Too bad a number of the religious are dangerous and incompetent

Valid for you.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[metis]

Intentionally meeting others in groups at this time is taking actions that put them and their children in danger to the well-being and lives, thus it is in no way being compassionate nor loving that is the hallmark of a mature faith. It's selfishness, as one can pray elsewhere in places that don't endanger others.

 

[columbus]

Intentionally meeting others in groups at this time is taking actions that put them and their children in danger to the well-being and lives, thus it is in no way being compassionate nor loving that is the hallmark of a mature faith. It's selfishness, as one can pray elsewhere in places that don't endanger others.

My mother-in-law is seriously jonesing for her church fix.

I offered to go with her to any safe(drive up) service in town. I like Easter too. She doesn't want to go. It's just not the same. So she's going to do a TV service, and I'm fixing a bunch of traditional Easter food.
Tom