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Religious tolerance and biblical contradictions

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Raito9

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Wannabe Yogi said:
I believe if you look at the long history of humans you will find that for the most part religions tend to be tolerant of other faiths. I know of no large persecution of others ( due to faith ) among the north american indians, chinese and the religions of the indian subcontinent ( pre islamic invasion ). Religious persecution seems to be the down side of the monotheist belief system. ( All belief systems seem to have there down side. Mine has the caste system. )

I don't know if I am reading more then I should in to your words but Catholics are Christians even though many evangelicals will tell you differently.
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How about the protestant/catholic war? Both sides tried to kill the other over religion. When the pilgrims landed, they ended up using religion to justify taking the indians land, by calling them un-christian savages. Joan of arc was attacked for listening to God instead of the king.

I also posted about the book of Joshua, and the book of exodus. Now, if god didn't say this Per Se, it would mean man did, and man altered gods word. Or man simply lied. Which brings me to this: If man wrote the bible, interpreting the gods word, how do we know man didn't alter it for his own gain?
 
McBell

McBell

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footprints said:
Hmm so you don't think that both groups are human... What can I say, Have a great day.
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Are you really that desperate or are you really that stupid?

I do not want to make an assumption based on the evidence, so I will just flat out ask.
 
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Raito9

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footprints said:
That is a perception, children are not born with bias and prejudice and it extends further from there.

yes, children don't have the comprehension of having prejudice until they pick it up from another. But every person alive has a prejudice or bias.


That is another perception, I can think of a number of posters who fit this persona, and without having hard evidence to back up this statement, would near guarantee that many of these people practice some form of meditation.

Noone can say they don't. It doesn't have to be just about religion, it can be about race or sexual orientation or even the way someone dresses. Like when a devout christian gets ona bus and is surrounded by goths, or wiccans wearing a pentacle. Automatically uncomfortable. This IS prejudice. When anyone is surrounded by people unlike them. They are uncomfortable. This IS prejudice. I have them, you have them, and so does every other peron alive. (Who can comprehend what prejudice is)

I get it, like not calling religions evil or judging them?

Every person will judge a religion to some extreme. Maybe not harshly, maybe just acknowledging that they don't like the religion. But it's still judgment. Man will never be able to be truly tolerant, until we all get off out pedestals and acknowledge that the world is actually diverse, and not all of it is bad.


Did God per se authorize this? Or was it something mankind used to unite the people? Remembering where Christianity is concerned, Jesus was sent to turn the Jews around in their thinking. The Jews wanted to fight everybody in the name of God and the Jesus and Co. wanted to love everybody in the name of the same God.

If god didn't say this Per Se, it would mean man did, and man altered gods word. Or man simply lied. Which brings me to this: If man wrote the bible, interpreting gods word, how do we know man didn't alter it for his own gain?


Did God per se say this? Or is this what mankind said at the time?

What can I say, people either accept or reject knowledge handed down to them to a greater or lesser degree. You would be surprised how many parents still smack or punish their children when there is greater knowledge available.



Do you mean like, not many people take religions as they are and want to change them or abolish them?
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As time goes on, man has and will always change religion to suit his own needs. There are 20 different forms of wicca, that suits each practitioner. Cults have doctored christianity to suck in people. And yes, people have also done so with wicca. It's just man's flaws.
 
McBell

McBell

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Raito9 said:
As time goes on, man has and will always change religion to suit his own needs. There are 20 different forms of wicca, that suits each practitioner. Cults have doctored christianity to suck in people. And yes, people have also done so with wicca. It's just man's flaws.
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What?
Only 20?
How do you separate the forms to have only 20?
 
McBell

McBell

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Humanistheart said:
In your world, appearently everything's based on 'perception'. So, to you, is anything real?
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Based upon his arguments I would say he thinks that his perception is reality and that anything that even seems to disagree with his perception is just chocked off as some other perception.

Now whether he sees other perceptions as valid or not, I have no idea.
However the evidence suggests that he he does consider any perception that is not his as irrelevant.
 
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footprints

Well-Known Member
Mestemia said:
Are you really that desperate or are you really that stupid?

I do not want to make an assumption based on the evidence, so I will just flat out ask.
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LOL you really are silly. First you want to take me on because I say all people are human and so have human characteristics, then you ask whether I am either desperate or stupid.

You really cannot be that desperate nor stupid. Albeit I could be wrong.
 
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footprints

Well-Known Member
Humanistheart said:
In your world, appearently everything's based on 'perception'. So, to you, is anything real?
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LOL humanistheheart, anything which has applied statistics based on accumulated data is not a perception, this then becomes fact based on the knowledge obtained.
 
Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
footprints said:
LOL humanistheheart, anything which has applied statistics based on accumulated data is not a perception, this then becomes fact based on the knowledge obtained.
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However, interpretation of what those facts mean will still be perception. ;)
 
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footprints

Well-Known Member
Mestemia said:
Based upon his arguments I would say he thinks that his perception is reality and that anything that even seems to disagree with his perception is just chocked off as some other perception.

Now whether he sees other perceptions as valid or not, I have no idea.
However the evidence suggests that he he does consider any perception that is not his as irrelevant.
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LOL :rolleyes:
 
McBell

McBell

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footprints said:
LOL you really are silly. First you want to take me on because I say all people are human and so have human characteristics, then you ask whether I am either desperate or stupid.

You really cannot be that desperate nor stupid. Albeit I could be wrong.
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I will assume it is your desperation, because in your perception the whole point of that particular post was clearly about the humanity...
 
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