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Rep. Becca Ballint (D-VT) on Trump v Biden

Jayhawker Soule

Jayhawker Soule

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Colt said:
Oh, a 2-state solution? What a refreshing idea.........that the Palestinians have rejected over, and over and over again!

I'm sorry but the truth is very ugly!
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It's also considerably more complex than you acknowledge or, perhaps, appreciate.

Let me suggest that you
  • recognize that the viability acceptability of "a 2-state solution" depends primarily on the specifics of that solution,
  • Learn the "Palestinians" are a heterogenous group with a multiplicity of dynamic views heavily influenced by the actions and positions of the Israeli government, and
  • learn something of the history (rather than the talking points) perhaps ny starting here.
 
Colt

Colt

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Jayhawker Soule said:
It's also considerably more complex than you acknowledge or, perhaps, appreciate.

Let me suggest that you
  • recognize that the viability acceptability of "a 2-state solution" depends primarily on the specifics of that solution,
  • Learn the "Palestinians" are a heterogenous group with a multiplicity of dynamic views heavily influenced by the actions and positions of the Israeli government, and
  • learn something of the history (rather than the talking points) perhaps ny starting here.
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Isn't the State of Israel already heterogenous with a multiplicity of views?

I can appreciate your idealism minus the customary condescension, but you assume that Muslim extremist share your lofty community sentiments. They lie!
 
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Ignatius A

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Jayhawker Soule said:
From MEDIAite:

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[CNN's Victor Blackwell] asked, “What did you…say to those constituents who agree with everything you just said — that the U.S. should send a message, there should be some controls or some checks on the use of the weapons, that there’s not enough aid — and they say, ‘For that reason, I’m not voting for Joe Biden in November.’ What do you tell them?”​

“A win for Donald Trump is a win for Netanyahu, period. No question,” Balint said. “If you want to see a safe and secure Israel and a safe and secure Palestine, Joe Biden is the president that will be working tirelessly to bring about two-state solution as well as peace and security in the entire region. I can, I will say it again: A vote for Donald Trump, or a vote that is sitting out, you know, this election, and not voting for president Biden, is a win for Benjamin Netanyahu.”​

Yep.
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"Two state solution". That's the fly in the soup. Hamas has no interest whatsoever in a two state solution. As long as that's the case this will go on and on and on.
 
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Ignatius A

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Jayhawker Soule said:
It's also considerably more complex than you acknowledge or, perhaps, appreciate.

Let me suggest that you
  • recognize that the viability acceptability of "a 2-state solution" depends primarily on the specifics of that solution,
  • Learn the "Palestinians" are a heterogenous group with a multiplicity of dynamic views heavily influenced by the actions and positions of the Israeli government, and
  • learn something of the history (rather than the talking points) perhaps ny starting here.
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Hamas does not want a two state solution. Hamas is "Palestinians" and "Palestinians" are Hamas.
 
ImmortalFlame

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Ignatius A said:
Show evidence of Hamas working toward a "two state solution".
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You seem to be answering an allegation I never made. How does "Hamas don't want a two-state solution" justify "we should equate Palestinian civilians with Hamas"?

Please explain your desire to murder civilians.
 
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Ignatius A

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ImmortalFlame said:
You seem to be answering an allegation I never made. How does "Hamas don't want a two-state solution" justify "we should equate Palestinian civilians with Hamas"?

Please explain your desire to murder civilians.
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First Hamas has no desire for a two state solution and you never will provide evidence if them working toward it because they dont want it.

Next, while your looking for evidence of Hamas working toward a two state solution also look for evidence of palestinian "civilians" criticizing hamas.

Last but not least thile childish play to emotion regarding "killing civilians" means you just regurgitate what's programmed into you. ***Staff Edit***
 
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ImmortalFlame

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Ignatius A said:
First Hamas has no desire for a two state solution and you never will provide evidence if them working toward it because they dont want it.
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Coolio. Want to start defending your equating Palestinian civilians with Hamas yet?

Ignatius A said:
Next, while your looking for evidence of Hamas working toward a two state solution also look for evidence of palestinian "civilians" criticizing hamas.
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Coolio. When are you going to start defending equating Palestinian civilians with Hamas?

Ignatius A said:
Last but not least thile childish play to emotion regarding "killing civilians" means you just regurgitate what's programmed into you. Stop being a child and give us evidence
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Coolio. So, you just think killing civilians is okay, then?
 
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Ignatius A

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ImmortalFlame said:
You seem to be answering an allegation I never made. How does "Hamas don't want a two-state solution" justify "we should equate Palestinian civilians with Hamas"?

Please explain your desire to murder civilians.
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First Hamas has no desire for a two state solution and you never will provide evidence if them working toward it because they dont want it.

Next, while your looking for evidence of Hamas working toward a two state solution also look for evidence of palestinian "civilians" criticizing hamas.

Last but not least thile childish play to emotion regarding "killing civilians" means you just regurgitate what's programmed into you. Stop being a child and give us evidence
Jayhawker Soule said:
That's ignorant nonsense.
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Then show us evidence of Hamas seeking a two state solution. Flapping gums is not evidence.
 
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Ignatius A

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ImmortalFlame said:
Coolio. Want to start defending your equating Palestinian civilians with Hamas yet?


Coolio. When are you going to start defending equating Palestinian civilians with Hamas?


Coolio. So, you just think killing civilians is okay, then?
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So not a single shred of evidence that Hamas wants a two state solution. It always ends the same way with you people. Lots of gums flapping but not a single bit of evidence. All we get is your "opinion". You know what they say about opinions right?
 
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Ignatius A

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ImmortalFlame said:
Nah, clearly we're too "childish" and "emotional" to understand that equating civilians and terrorists is actually perfectly reasonable, and a perfectly normal thing for intelligent and reasonable people to do.
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Just one piece of evidence that hamas wants a two state solution. You can do that right?
 
ImmortalFlame

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Ignatius A said:
So not a single shred of evidence that Hamas wants a two state solution.
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Again, I ask, what does that have to do with you equating Palestinian civilians with Hamas?

Ignatius A said:
It always ends the same way with you people. Lots of gums flapping but not a single bit of evidence.
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I never said anything about a two-state solution or Hamas. All I did was point out, correctly, that your argument equates Palestinian civilians with Hamas. And that this position is completely unjustifiable.

Ignatius A said:
All we get is your "opinion". You know what they say about opinions right?
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That if you can't justify one, it's much better to pretend you didn't say what you said because you know you can't defend it?
 
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Ignatius A

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ImmortalFlame said:
Again, I ask, what does that have to do with you equating Palestinian civilians with Hamas?


I never said anything about a two-state solution or Hamas. All I did was point out, correctly, that your argument equate Palestinian civilians with Hamas.


That if you can't justify one, it's much better to pretend you didn't say what you said because you know you can't defend it?
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It makes a huge difference. You people want to separate Palestinian "civilians" from Hamas. Shoe.us evidence of Palestinian "civilians" condemning Hamas. You just fla ok your gums. You're a parrot.
 
ImmortalFlame

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Ignatius A said:
It makes a huge difference. You people want to separate Palestinian "civilians" from Hamas. Shoe.us evidence of Palestinian "civilians" condemning Hamas. You just fla ok your gums. You're a parrot.
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So, you literally make no distinction between civilians and terrorists.

Seems you have a bit more in common with Hamas than you realize.
 
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