Republican candidates?

[PureX]

That wouldn't disqualify him.

Lots of things can disqualify him. But without precedent. So he will appeal to the courts and they will have to decide.

I have a suspicion that someone would stop the insanity before it got that far out of hand. The best thing for everyone is that he does not become the republican candidate. My guess is that's what will happen.

 

[Colt]

Fair enough

Biden seems like just a dumb grandpa, if I’m honest lol
Tump has bad scandal after bad scandal. I’m sorry, but that’s just how it seemingly is. The infamous “Nazis are good people” scandal, the Jan 6 crap (I saw the actual real live footage from folks attending that, so don’t think I wasn’t savvy, just because I’m not American. I witnessed it as it happened. Live, online.) I remember when Trump was first elected, our news media was all side eyeing him. Which is kind of funny to think about in hindsight lol
Biden meanwhile has been seemingly boring in comparison. I mean he hasn’t committed anything that has gotten him indicted, for example
To my knowledge anyway. Perhaps you can point that out for me.

To be clear, I don’t really have any favouritism towards either candidate. They’re both foreign to me so I could care less who wins.
I’m just saying, Trump looks worse off if we include the legal proceedings. Going by international news coverage.
And yes I’m including Hunter Biden. But that’s his son and all sorts of parents can have awful kids, I don’t care. Sorry lol

Trump didn't actually say that Nazis are good people, I watched that news conference live! The media in America IS an extension of the (D) party! They twist and distort for their own agenda.

However, Trump does bear some responsibility for the riots and property destruction of our Capitol building on Jan 6. His followers were angry about the fake Russian collusion scandal, so they believed that the election was stollen through tampering with votes.. If our FBI, CIA and other government agencies could be so corrupt then people honestly believe that elections could be tampered with. Biden got many more votes than Obama!?!? Myself, I think the election was mostly legitimate, Trump scares people, he says true things sometimes that cause Leftist to rage!

 

[PureX]

Trump didn't actually say that Nazis are good people, I watched that news conference live! The media in America IS an extension of the (D) party! They twist and distort for their own agenda.

However, Trump does bear some responsibility for the riots and property destruction of our Capitol building on Jan 6. His followers were angry about the fake Russian collusion scandal, so they believed that the election was stollen through tampering with votes.. If our FBI, CIA and other government agencies could be so corrupt then people honestly believe that elections could be tampered with. Biden got many more votes than Obama!?!? Myself, I think the election was mostly legitimate, Trump scares people, he says true things sometimes that cause Leftist to rage!

The media is not an extension of the Democratic Party.

Trump is the gift that never stops giving to the media, because he is constantly saying outrageous things that the media can use to keep the viewers and listeners tuning in for more. The media makes it's money by putting eyes and ears on the ads. That's what they sell: our eyes and ears to their advertisers. The more eyes and ears they can keep tuning in, the more money they make. It's all about the money. Not the politics. And Trump has made them all rich with his wild antics. He's literally the gift that never stops giving them an audience.

And he knows that when he keeps saying outrageous stuff, they will air it over and over. So he keeps doing it. It keeps him 'famous'. And it's his fame that he trades on. He is the mascot for wealth and arrogance. A living cartoon characterization of Richie Rich.

Sensationalism gets viewers, and viewers sell to the advertisers. It's all about the money.

 

[Colt]

The media is not an extension of the Democratic Party.

Trump is the gift that never stops giving to the media, because he is constantly saying outrageous things that the media can use to keep the viewers and listeners tuning in for more. The media makes it's money by putting eyes and ears on the ads. That's what they sell. The more eyes and ears they can keep tuning in, the more money they make. It's all about the money. Not the politics. And Trump has made them all rich with his wild antics.

The media is populated by and dominated by (D). Its from 2014 but very revealing:

Survey: 7 percent of reporters identify as Republican

Survey: 7 percent of reporters identify as Republican

2022​

9. More Journalists Say They Are Democrats


Compared with 2013, the percentage of full-time U.S. journalists who claim to be Democrats has increased 8 percentage points in 2022 to about 36 percent, a figure higher than the overall population percentage of 27 percent, according to a 2022 ABC News/Washington Post national poll. This is the third highest percentage of journalists saying they are Democrats since 1971.




Journalists who said they were Republicans continued to drop from 18 percent in 2002 and 7.1 percent in 2013 to 3.4 percent in 2022. This figure is notably lower than the percentage of U.S. adults who identified with the Republican party (26 percent according to the poll mentioned earlier) in 2022. About half of all journalists (51.7 percent) said they were Independents, which is about 12 percentage points above the figure for all U.S. adults (40 percent). Overall, U.S. journalists today are much more likely to identify themselves as Independents rather than Democrats or Republicans—a pattern similar to 2013.

Key Findings From The 2022 American Journalist Study


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[PureX]

The media is populated by and dominated by (D). Its from 2014 but very revealing:

Survey: 7 percent of reporters identify as Republican​

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Survey: 7 percent of reporters identify as Republican​

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2022​

9. More Journalists Say They Are Democrats


Compared with 2013, the percentage of full-time U.S. journalists who claim to be Democrats has increased 8 percentage points in 2022 to about 36 percent, a figure higher than the overall population percentage of 27 percent, according to a 2022 ABC News/Washington Post national poll. This is the third highest percentage of journalists saying they are Democrats since 1971.




Journalists who said they were Republicans continued to drop from 18 percent in 2002 and 7.1 percent in 2013 to 3.4 percent in 2022. This figure is notably lower than the percentage of U.S. adults who identified with the Republican party (26 percent according to the poll mentioned earlier) in 2022. About half of all journalists (51.7 percent) said they were Independents, which is about 12 percentage points above the figure for all U.S. adults (40 percent). Overall, U.S. journalists today are much more likely to identify themselves as Independents rather than Democrats or Republicans—a pattern similar to 2013.

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Key Findings From The 2022 American Journalist Study​

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None of that matters. They report on what they are told to report on. And the media outlets they work for air what they want. And what they want to air is whatever gets them the most viewers and listeners. Because that's how they make money. It's why they blow every story up into a big controversy. It keeps people paying attention, and they can sell that attention for big money.

 

[Colt]

None of that matters. They report on what they are told to report on. And the media outlets they work for air what they want. And what they want to air is whatever gets them the most viewers and listeners. Because that's how they make money. It's why they blow every story up into a big controversy. It keeps people paying attention, and they can sell that attention for big money.

I agree, profits from click bait is a driving force. Fox feeds its Right wing audience and the rest feed their Left wing audience. But you simply cannot have any trace of conservative thinking among your journalistic peers if you want to go anywhere in the career!

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Okay, can you or maybe someone here give me a bit of insider background context?
Because my news stations here are kind of looking at DeSantis like he’s an absolute nutjob (no offence.) They’re being polite in the phrasing, but that’s the general vibe I’ve been getting.
But simultaneously, he’s apparently losing quite heavily in the polling? (I’m assuming this is sourced from Republican voters specifically.)
So….does this make him a strong candidate? Or not?
Sorry not sure how your system works.

The big money is already pulling away from DeSantis, letting him know that trying to be far right socially isn't cutting it with their voter base. Focusing, as he has been, on gays and trans and drag queens doesn't have a lot of play left in it. But he doesn't seem to have any other sort of platform to fall back on.

 

[PureX]

I agree, profits from click bait is a driving force. Fox feeds its Right wing audience and the rest feed their Left wing audience. But you simply cannot have any trace of conservative thinking among your journalistic peers if you want to go anywhere in the career!

The only way a journalist is going anywhere career wise is if he or she can pull in the viewers or listeners. Everything is about the money, now. Idealism is long gone, left or right. Political affiliation is either irrelevant, or it's whatever brings the biggest payday.

This is what it's come to.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Sorry, but I have to ask.
Can you get disqualified from running as president in the States?
Because I feel like if any of our politicians were involved in a trial that was the equivalent of the Indictment Trump is currently going through, they’d never be able to serve in office again. Never mind run for the top job.
And I come from a literal country of criminals, for crying out loud

The Senate had a chance to disqualify him, when they voted on the second impeachment. The sad part is, Mitch McConnell actually stood up in that chamber and admitted (after they had voted "no" to impeachment) that Trump deserved it and was guilty as hell. If they had voted to impeach then, he could never run for federal office in the United States again.

 

[SomeRandom]

Trump didn't actually say that Nazis are good people, I watched that news conference live! The media in America IS an extension of the (D) party! They twist and distort for their own agenda.

I was talking about his infamous “there were good people on both sides” speech, regarding the was it the Charlottesville riots?
I think that was the case.
Yeah there were literal neo Nazis marching. Not only did I see that on the international news coverage but on literal live-streaming first hand. Wow, that was some….footage, let me tell you.

That was a blunder that the world saw. Sorry, again I couldn’t care less who won or wins or whatever
I’m just saying, that was quite a scandal from an international perspective

However, Trump does bear some responsibility for the riots and property destruction of our Capitol building on Jan 6. His followers were angry about the fake Russian collusion scandal, so they believed that the election was stollen through tampering with votes.. If our FBI, CIA and other government agencies could be so corrupt then people honestly believe that elections could be tampered with. Biden got many more votes than Obama!?!? Myself, I think the election was mostly legitimate, Trump scares people, he says true things sometimes that cause Leftist to rage!

Ahh yeah fair enough. They probably shouldn’t have staged a coup though (again, I saw first hand the footage live.)
My mother’s native country went through a coup
I do not recommend it, believe me. Even if you think your leaders are corrupt beyond doubt. Seriously, it’s not worth it. Please!!!

 

[SomeRandom]

The Senate had a chance to disqualify him, when they voted on the second impeachment. The sad part is, Mitch McConnell actually stood up in that chamber and admitted (after they had voted "no" to impeachment) that Trump deserved it and was guilty as hell. If they had voted to impeach then, he could never run for federal office in the United States again.

Forgive me, but I thought he was already being impeached?
So if the actual house senate(?) voted to impeach him that would have disqualified him? But not the legal proceedings?
I apologise but I am probably more confused than when I started lol
Is this just a “loophole” kind of deal, relying on old laws?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Forgive me, but I thought he was already being impeached?
So if the actual house senate(?) voted to impeach him that would have disqualified him? But not the legal proceedings?
I apologise but I am probably more confused than when I started lol
Is this just a “loophole” kind of deal, relying on old laws?

He was impeached by the House -- twice. But it requires the Senate to actually declare him guilty. Impeachment is the prerogative of the House, but it does not make him guilty -- only the Senate can do that. And McConnell, as Majority Leader in the Senate made sure they did not -- even though McConnell acknowledged his guilt that same night, in so many words.

 

[SomeRandom]

He was impeached by the House -- twice. But it requires the Senate to actually declare him guilty. Impeachment is the prerogative of the House, but it does not make him guilty -- only the Senate can do that. And McConnell, as Majority Leader in the Senate made sure they did not -- even though McConnell acknowledged his guilt that same night, in so many words.

Okay
Impeachment is like???
Sorry I have a vague idea of what it is, but I’m not entirely sure what it actually means (I don’t think.)
It’s like accusing someone of criminal misconduct, right?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Okay
Impeachment is like???
Sorry I have a vague idea of what it is, but I’m not entirely sure what it actually means (I don’t think.)
It’s like accusing someone of criminal misconduct, right?

Impeachment is more like indictment. The House examines charges brought against a government official (usually) and decides whether to indict - but as a non-law-enforcement body, they can't idict, so they impeach. In an indictment, a jury must then decide guilt or innocence, and in an impeachment, the Senate acts as the jury, and they decide guilt or innocence.

So Trump today, for example, has been indicted 3 times, for more than 70 charges. But as he has yet to have a trial, although indicted, he is still considered innocent, as he has not been proven guilty in a fair trial.

 

[SomeRandom]

Impeachment is more like indictment. The House examines charges brought against a government official (usually) and decides whether to indict - but as a non-law-enforcement body, they can't idict, so they impeach. In an indictment, a jury must then decide guilt or innocence, and in an impeachment, the Senate acts as the jury, and they decide guilt or innocence.

So Trump today, for example, has been indicted 3 times, for more than 70 charges. But as he has yet to have a trial, although indicted, he is still considered innocent, as he has not been proven guilty in a fair trial.

Wow. And I thought Parliament was complicated lol

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Tim Scott.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/23/politics/tim-scott-republican-president-trump-desantis/index.html

For all that he and I would stand starkly opposed, I wish you were right. At least he seems coherant and consistent in his opinions from what I've seen.

Then the voters can choose.

 

[anna.]

Okay, can you or maybe someone here give me a bit of insider background context?
Because my news stations here are kind of looking at DeSantis like he’s an absolute nutjob (no offence.) They’re being polite in the phrasing, but that’s the general vibe I’ve been getting.
But simultaneously, he’s apparently losing quite heavily in the polling? (I’m assuming this is sourced from Republican voters specifically.)
So….does this make him a strong candidate? Or not?
Sorry not sure how your system works.

DeSantis has cut a third of his staff, his numbers are terrible, his donors are getting squeamish, he has no charisma.

 

[SomeRandom]

DeSantis has cut a third of his staff, his numbers are terrible, his donors are getting squeamish, he has no charisma.

Do you think Disney will beat him in the lawsuits?
I feel like Disney is such a giant conglomerate that they will crush him for fun. But again I don’t know how the US system works. It just seems like suicide to take on Disney for literally any reason under the sun lol

 

[anna.]

Do you think Disney will beat him in the lawsuits?
I feel like Disney is such a giant conglomerate that they will crush him for fun. But again I don’t know how the US system works. It just seems like suicide to take on Disney for literally any reason under the sun lol

I don't know. When it comes to deep pockets, Disney's might be deeper.

In the end, though, as the pundits put it, "make America Florida" isn't gonna work out for DeSantis. He can't out-MAGA Trump when it comes to appealing to the MAGA base, and he'll never make it past the primary so the rest of the U.S. can let him know they'd rather keep Florida Man in Florida.

 

[Colt]

I was talking about his infamous “there were good people on both sides” speech, regarding the was it the Charlottesville riots?
I think that was the case.
Yeah there were literal neo Nazis marching. Not only did I see that on the international news coverage but on literal live-streaming first hand. Wow, that was some….footage, let me tell you.

That was a blunder that the world saw. Sorry, again I couldn’t care less who won or wins or whatever
I’m just saying, that was quite a scandal from an international perspective





Ahh yeah fair enough. They probably shouldn’t have staged a coup though (again, I saw first hand the footage live.)
My mother’s native country went through a coup
I do not recommend it, believe me. Even if you think your leaders are corrupt beyond doubt. Seriously, it’s not worth it. Please!!!

I was there/here doing photography! I live in Charlottesville and have the full context of all that happened!

Politico says you need the context of the full speech which you can read here.

Within the (2) sides there were "good people", that is people who were protesting NOT causing violence. But there were also violent ANTIFA and white supremacist's within the crowds who fought.