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RFK - Biden More Dangerous than Trump

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I'm not really sure what he's trying to do here. He doesn't have any chance of winning, and the only reason he's getting a modicum of attention is because of his name and who his father was.
Really? I'm surprised you don't, as you tend to abreast of these issues. His support isn't because of his name or his father. It's because he presented himself similarly to Tulsi Gabbard - an anti-war moderate and populist who could bring more moderate Reps and Dems together. Later, he lost a bit of support for making over the top warmonger comments as everyone rushed to show support to Israel after October 7. A lot of people feel he's a fake because of it (I wouldn't vote for him now, either). I bet he regrets it now.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Really? I'm surprised you don't, as you tend to abreast of these issues. His support isn't because of his name or his father. It's because he presented himself similarly to Tulsi Gabbard - an anti-war moderate and populist who could bring more moderate Reps and Dems together. Later, he lost a bit of support for making over the top warmonger comments as everyone rushed to show support to Israel after October 7. A lot of people feel he's a fake because of it (I wouldn't vote for him now, either). I bet he regrets it now.

I'll admit I haven't followed him as closely, but do you think he would be getting as much attention if not for his name recognition? Gabbard hasn't really gotten much media attention either.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I'll admit I haven't followed him as closely, but do you think he would be getting as much attention if not for his name recognition? Gabbard hasn't really gotten much media attention either.
I'm sure his name has to do with it, but not all of it. Or maybe I'm just the only one who didn't care about him being a Kennedy, and everyone else does. :shrug:

I liked what little I read of his book about Fauci, too. It's very dense reading but very interesting.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I think @SkepticThinker covered the dictator part--here is the president for life comment from back in 2018: Trump says maybe U.S. will have a president for life someday
Again, since it doesn’t have a link, I have to see the context of the statement.

As far Skeptic and a political twisting of what was said:



This, actually, looks more dictatorial:


It’s what people do that concerns me
 
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Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
Again, since it doesn’t have a link, I have to see the context of the statement.

As far Skeptic and a political twisting of what was said:



This, actually, looks more dictatorial:


It’s what people do that concerns me

I mean, if you are so uninformed that you're actually unaware and you're also unwilling to take 30 seconds and search YouTube yourself for all the disturbing things Trump has said and done then it tells me your mind is made up already and you're just here to argue.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Apparently you didn’t read context and meaning.

If one day makes him a dictator by his declaration that Biden is dictator by what he has done via executive order

I’m not defending either of them - but it is political news
That's not the context I caught after watching it several times.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm sure his name has to do with it, but not all of it. Or maybe I'm just the only one who didn't care about him being a Kennedy, and everyone else does. :shrug:

I liked what little I read of his book about Fauci, too. It's very dense reading but very interesting.

There are a few voices out there who seem to be less than enchanted with either Biden or Trump - and also seem to want to embrace some sort of "middle ground" position. Senator Sinema in Arizona also kind of put forth that view, but it seems she's leaving politics with some sense of bitterness. The OP article suggested that RFK was not really in the middle, but actually pro-Trump. And it's quite possible that he might be for Trump, but if he continues to run, would he take away more votes from Biden or from Trump?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don’t have a crystal ball… but I think he would
He would alienate every Democrat I know.
All think he's a loony conspiracy theorist.
If he ran instead of Biden, Trump would
be a shoe in to win.

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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Apparently you didn’t read context and meaning.
Not only did I read it, I watched him say it on television.

Notice how you just said I'm wrong without pointing out how or why. Just claiming "context" isn't an argument.
If one day makes him a dictator by his declaration that Biden is dictator by what he has done via executive order
Irrelevant deflection.

Trump issued a ton of executive orders when President as well. But this isn't about Biden, of course. It's about Trump's words and actions.
I’m not defending either of them - but it is political news

When exactly should we take Trump's words seriously, do you think?
Should we wait until an angry mob is violently attacking the Capitol again, before we believe him or .... ? Just curious.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I've pointed this out a bunch of times as well. Nobody ever addresses it.

Yes, and if one watches Trump's reaction to Hannity, he realized the latter's shock and then moves on. He has repeated stated about "retribution" against those he hates and even going against certain news sources, such as when he threatened to shut MSNBC down if elected.

At this point, it is truly bewildering to me how professed Christians and some observant Jews can still defend this man. Do they have a death wish for the country? As a student of the Holocaust, what's happening is scaring the bejabbers out of me.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
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