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Richard Dawkins Facepalms at Deepak Chopra

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Reason is the product of thought. Higher Consciousness short-circuits the thinking mind, as in Zen koan:

'What is the sound of one hand clapping?'


It is about SEEING, not THINKING
Indeed. What does Big Mind see in its projection of Monkey Mind? Does it see its own craziness?
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
So what do you mean by absolute nothingness? What exists in absolute nothingness?

Can you understand the following:

“We live in illusion and the appearance of things. There is a reality. We are that reality. When you understand this, you see that you are nothing, and being nothing, you are everything. That is all.”

Kalu Rinpoche
 

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
Well, you did say that interaction is everything and that it is the fundamental reality.

Another contradiction of yours.


Everything is interactive yes, but that is already a known scientfic fact. With my theory I never intended to reinvent the wheel, I just wanted to explain consciousness and life which it does.
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
Everything is interactive yes, but that is already a known scientfic fact. With my theory I never intended to reinvent the wheel, I just wanted to explain consciousness and life which it does.

....only from a dead, mechanistic materialist standpoint. It doesn't explain my consciousness and life at all. I think you're way, way, way off.

Have you thought about what all the interactive fuss is all about?
 

godnotgod

Thou art That
My theory of interaction is my personal theory/explanation of consciousness. It was never intended to be a "theory of everything".

....only from a dead, mechanistic materialist standpoint. It doesn't explain my consciousness and life at all. I think you're way, way, way off.

Have you thought about what all the interactive fuss is all about?

The Buddha noted the same thing. He called it 'effervescence', but looked deeper than mere appearances in order to become the Buddha. He wasn't fooled by what is on the surface, and underwent a complete transformation from the ground up.


'Man must remake himself within the eternity of his own body'
Source unknown
 

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
....only from a dead, mechanistic materialist standpoint. It doesn't explain my consciousness and life at all. I think you're way, way, way off.

Have you thought about what all the interactive fuss is all about?


Sure it explains consciousness and life and I have given you those explanations. Granted it is a very simplistic explanation, but an explanation nonetheless. I could care less what you think about it.
 

Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
....only from a dead, mechanistic materialist standpoint. It doesn't explain my consciousness and life at all. I think you're way, way, way off.

Have you thought about what all the interactive fuss is all about?

The Buddha noted the same thing. He called it 'effervescence', but looked deeper than mere appearances in order to become the Buddha. He wasn't fooled by what is on the surface, and underwent a complete transformation from the ground up.


'Man must remake himself within the eternity of his own body'
Source unknown


Yes, surely there is a level of interaction which transcends all known fundamental interactions. Is it consciousness? No.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
So what do you mean by absolute nothingness?

"Absolute Nothingness" is the latest in a random series of PPNs ( Pretentious Proper Nouns ), it will never be clearly explained and never clearly distinguished from the rest of the PPNs flying around in this thread. We've established it's nothing to do with Buddhist emptiness ( sunyata ), so what can it possibly mean?
Is "Absolute Nothingness" more nothingy than "Nothingness"? And is "Cosmic Consciousness" Absolutely Nothing too, or is it a Changeless Something? It's so confusing!

Or is "Big Mind" the latest PPN? Is this the same as "Cosmic Consciousness", and is it Something or Nothing or Pure, or just free of monkeys!? It's very difficult to keep track of these randomly-emitted jargon buzz-words, so it would be very helpful to have a glossary, or maybe we can be given access to the ODNJ ( Orwellian Dictionary of New-age Jargon )? ;)
 
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Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Possibly a unified field of sorts which would combine all the known fundamental forces into a singular, all-encompassing force or interaction.

It looks like Chopra has some competition!
http://www.allenroland.com/unified_field.php
Apparently this guy is a "transformational counsellor" so I'm guessing his Ph.D. isn't anything to do with science (it's actually "spiritual psychology", whatever that is ) . ;)
He has "proved" that the unified field is a "psychic energy field of love and soul consciousness". So that's solved that then, all the scientists can put their feet up!
 
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Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
It looks like Chopra has some competition!
http://www.allenroland.com/unified_field.php
Apparently this guy is a "transformational counsellor" so I'm guessing his Ph.D. isn't anything to do with science. ;)
He has "proved" that the unified field is a "psychic energy field of universal love". So that's solved that then, all the scientists can put their feet up!



OMG... Anytime someone throws "love" into an equation for the universe it makes me want to puke. I got a couple friends who are wiccan and they think everything is "love and light". They are like a bunch of fluffy bunnies. Lets all fly home on a carpet of magical unicorns and rainbows!! Yay!!

People take things too far...
This guy is clearly deluded as well.
 
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Runewolf1973

Materialism/Animism
So far I think my theory of interaction still explains the most about consciousness and life. It does not go against any fundamental laws of science or physics, but rather supports those laws, nor does it get all pseudoscientific. Interaction on all levels...the universal, the microscopic and at the quantum level is a scientific fact. Interaction is fundamental to everything. Consciousness and life are complex forms of interaction.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
So far I think my theory of interaction still explains the most about consciousness and life. It does not go against any fundamental laws of science or physics, but rather supports those laws, nor does it get all pseudoscientific. Interaction on all levels...the universal, the microscopic and at the quantum level is a scientific fact. Interaction is fundamental to everything. Consciousness and life are complex forms of interaction.

It is certainly a lot more convincing than the sort of stuff that Chopra preaches.
 
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