No, you said "prove or disprove anything about God."
But since we now agree, we can stop arguing about semantics.
We agree! =D
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Riddle of the beginning solved without god?
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No, you said "prove or disprove anything about God."
But since we now agree, we can stop arguing about semantics.
We agree! =D
Quiddity
UndertheInfluenceofGiants
No, not completely.
What I'm trying to tell you is that whatever limitations you note that science has discovered cannot be attributed to God whatsoever. Once you do, that is your doing and not something science is telling you. This is what I mean by entering metaphysics.
shawn001
Well-Known Member
The geometry works perfectly; the problem is that the things inside the geometry stop working sensibly.
Corrected.
shawn001
Well-Known Member
This is pretty amazing.
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Physicists Bring Origins of Universe to Big Screen - YouTube
Dramatic 3-D videos, created from actual data by Stanford physicists at SLAC's Kavli Institute for Particle Astrophysics and Cosmology, show the origins of the universe.
Related article:
Now, brought to the big screen by physicists at SLAC: the universe
Okay.. so mathematics, probability or logic are all not applicable to God?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
The geometry works perfectly; the problem is that the things inside the geometry stop working sensibly.
Geometry requires what?...more than one point?
And the singularity is what?....singular?
Why not say it, sensibly?
There is no geometry at the 'point' of singularity.
The notion of geometry cannot be applied.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Numbers won't work.
There will be no equation to prove or disprove God.
Logic however, can make sense of things when no experiment can be performed.
But you have to be willing to go in the direction...
where only your thought and feeling can go.
What seems unlikely...improbable...unbelievable...
would be the only answer.
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
The future is a second point. Assuming a singularity exists at all, which is very unlikely.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Can't have a future without movement.
No vectors....no time....
That is until God says..."Let there be light!"
Then you can have your vectors.... and your future.
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
The future cannot be brought into being; that's a contradiction.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Trying to be coy?
swamplizard
Human
The future and the past are integral to Now.
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
The past is experience. Now is perception. The future is speculation.
Wasnt Leibniz German?
Ohne die Mathematik dringt man niemals auf den Grund der Philosophie.
Ohne die Philosophie dringt man niemals auf den Grund der Mathematik.
Ohne beide dringt man auf den Grund von gar nichts
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz
Without Mathematics one cannot understand the fundamentals of Philosophy.
Without Philosophy we cannot reach the foundation of mathematics.
Without both one cannot reach anything that is fundamental.
A universe without purpose
The illusion of purpose and design is perhaps the most pervasive illusion about nature that science has to confront on a daily basis. Everywhere we look, it appears that the world was designed so that we could flourish.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-krauss-cosmology-design-universe-20120401,0,4136597.story
shawn001
Well-Known Member
garrydons, don't know who your asking, but the origins of the universe, I believe.