Subduction Zone
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Creationists cannot come up with another one that has not been thoroughly debunked. Though you could try.
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Right and Wrong Reasons for being (A)theist
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Subduction Zone
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And once again, the theory of evolution is the only idea that has not been shown to be wrong. Creationists currently avoid putting their beliefs into proper scientific concepts. They have been burnt far too often. Right now they simply make nonsense claims that can't be tested putting them in the realm of "Not even wrong".
Subduction Zone
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What? One does not need a "reason for mutation". Mutations occur naturally. You yourself have from 50 to 100 mutations in the genome from your parents.
Maybe so, but it has not been shown to be true either. It is only a belief. And as a belief, it is only modernization of Mother earth religion. In it, the “evolution” is the creator of life forms, similarly as Mother Earth in ancient beliefs.
I don’t see that nature has ability to create new species as evolution theorists claim and therefore I don’t believe the theory.
How is “God created” debunked?
Even if they have same “ERV's at the same spot in their genomes”, it is just a belief that it means same ancestor.
But luckily, we don’t have to be that desperate that we take “the only” explanation as truth, when there is no good reason to take it.
Thermos aquaticus
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It is a conclusion based on evidence, not a belief. You might as well say that germs causing disease is a belief.
Thermos aquaticus
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But luckily, we don’t have to be that desperate that we take “the only” explanation as truth, when there is no good reason to take it.
Why weren't the reasons I gave good enough?
Subduction Zone
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I? It is not a question of "God created" , it is a question of what and how he any goes created. The Adam and Eve story have clearly been debunked. So has the Noah's Ark myth.
Of course there is no reason to believe the myths of the Bible since there is no reliable evidence for them.
Subduction Zone
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What are you talking about? You do realize that there are different standards of proof, don't you? By a legal standard the theory has been proven far beyond a reasonable doubt. If you ever thought that someone was guilty of a crime then you have no excuse for not
accepting the theory of evolution.
That is only because you suffer from wilful ignorance.
Debunking depends upon perspective.
While scientifically debunked, we're talking about a supreme
being who can do things which supersede the laws of science.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
the problem is that creationists will also claim that God cannot lie. Assuming that God cannot or will not lie the creation myths of the Bible are debunked.
Supernatural intervention.
Conflict resolved.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Who? It seems you are allowing God to lie.
By the way, if a creationist openly stated that God lied I could respect their position a little.
I don't see the need for a lie.
The Bible could be accurate, with supernatural intervention
violating the natural laws we observe now.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
This is not clear. The evidence out there clearly tells us that the diversity of life is due to evolution. If that is not the case then God would have had to have planted the evidence, making him a liar.
That's not lying....just trickery.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Same thing. If there is an intent to deceive then it is lying.
Or it's a test.