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It Aint Necessarily So

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Yea with some people the quality of education improves when you throw money at it. Particularly other people's money. That's how people get smarter. Right Throw tons of other people's money at it to pay off ones union buddies in exchange for votes by the teachers union. What a wonderful report card....
There doesn't seem to be much that you like about America.

That's what these grievance messages teach and how they affect those susceptible to them. The typical MAGA conservative dislikes most of the people living there because of their color, sex, sexual preference, ethnicity, etc.. He now thinks that elections and trials are corrupt. You find the schools unacceptable. You treat taxes like they're a punishment rather than the cost of living in a social democracy.

I'm with you, however, on there not being much in America for me, but for entirely different reasons. My criticisms would be the advent of MAGA, conservative indoctrination media and what it turns one's neighbors into, gun culture, rampant racism, excessive tantrumming and entitlement, political uncertainty and instability, theocratic tendencies, overpriced, and too much extreme weather compared to other latitudes.

Since the best of America can be enjoyed from abroad thanks to modern telecommunications and Amazon, there's no argument for being there after retirement if there are no family commitments or other impediments to relocating.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Yea with some people the quality of education improves when you throw money at it. Particularly other people's money.

That's how people get smarter. Right?

Throw tons of other people's money at it to pay off ones union buddies in exchange for votes by the teachers union.

What a wonderful report card....


I looked at your report card and could make very little sense of it and so I looked up ALEC and their rating priorities.
because it is a good example of what @It Aint Necessarily So is pointing out. The ratings are biased towards home schooling and charter schools with academic performance and graduation rates basically ignored though NY for example does get an A for academic standards and a B for teacher quality to end up 23rd. Arizona which they rank 1st gets a B for standards and a D for teacher quality/policies.

And yes, per pupil costs are high, NY is a high income state and very expensive in certain areas. There aren't any trailer parks in Manhattan.


ALEC’s Hilarious Report Card on The States

By dianeravitch
July 24, 2017 //
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ALEC is the fringe-right American Legislative Exchange Council, which advocates for school privatization and elimination of unions, due process, and the teaching profession. Its hero is Betsy DeVos, who is working daily to bring ALEC’s extremist agenda into the mainstream.
ALEC publishes an annual report card on education, evaluating the states not by test scores or quality of education or results, but by the degree to which they have privatized their public schools and diverted funding to nonpublic schools.
The world according to ALEC is upside down.
The number 1 state is Arizona, even though it has low scores on NAEP and a very low high school graduation rate.
The number 2 is Florida, also with an abysmal graduation rate.
Number 3 is Indiana, where privatization reigns supreme, and spending is low.
The District of Columbia, one of the lowest performing districts in the nation, with the biggest achievement gaps, ranks number 6.
Far behind D.C. and other contenders is Massachusetts, with the nation’s highest test scores and a graduation rate of 89%.
Why, according to ALEC, the state of Alabama and the District of Columbia are far, far better than Massachusetts.
And even funnier, ALEC says the worst state in the nation is Nebraska. It has no charter schools, no vouchers. It has a graduation rate of 94%. Just awful!
The ALEC report card is the direct opposite of the Network for Public Education report card, which graded states in relation to their support for public schools. ALEC’s #1 state, Arizona, received an F. ALEC’s #51 state, Nebraska, came in second in the nation.
What a hoot!
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think a whole revolution started over a smallish tax that sort of affected everyone.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think a whole revolution started over a smallish tax that sort of affected everyone.
OK, you are wrong, it was not the tax itself, as the story is told, it was we didn't get to set the tax itself.
Now, we vote for representatives to work in our interests to set these rates and as a result have a method of redress.
Of course we still gripe about paying our share for what we get.

And it wasn't smallish as the various taxes on sugar, molasses, printed anything, even cards and other things were levied to pay for the seven years or French and Indian war depending on your side. The King wouldn't even let up print paper money to pay each other which we wanted to do since gold and silver coins were scarce.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
OK, you are wrong, it was not the tax itself, as the story is told, it was we didn't get to set the tax itself.
Now, we vote for representatives to work in our interests to set these rates and as a result have a method of redress.
Of course we still gripe about paying our share for what we get.

And it wasn't smallish as the various taxes on sugar, molasses, printed anything, even cards and other things were levied to pay for the seven years or French and Indian war depending on your side. The King wouldn't even let up print paper money to pay each other which we wanted to do since gold and silver coins were scarce.
Like we do now? LOL
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Another interesting one, the least literate states all have large immigrant populations, is this really indictive of educational quality?
I have not seen a stat that concludes that, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Generally speaking, the states that mostly have scored the lowest are southern mostly rural states. States in the northeast and Pacific coast and Hawaii have largely scored the highest.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Why don't you tell me if these graduates happen stay in New York State , or do they run away from the People's Republic and go elsewhere where it's far cheaper and substantially more free with less government restrictions on their careers and businesses.
RankStateNumber of International Students
1California138,393
2New York126,782
3Texas80,757
4Massachusetts79,751

We keep the best along with the best of the homegrown, the rest go home to improve their homelands or whatever backwater they want to, but because our education system is so good people come here in preference to most anywhere.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The only thing my taxes benefit is paying for extravagant perks, excessive wages, and special interests porkbarrel for a bloated parasitic government.

I have absolutely nothing to benefit here in the People's Republic of New York where all my hard earned money from my labor gets sucked into a government black hole never to be seen again.
Oh so your taxes don't go toward things like road and infrastructure maintenance, schools, fire and police departments, libraries, health services .... ?
 
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