Right to Contraception Act.

[Shaul]

If I had the legislative power, I would pass a law giving anyone free contraceptives.
Paid for by the Treasury.

Why shouldn't the person using the contraceptives be the one paying for them?

 

[Shaul]

Senate Republicans block bill to protect access to contraception

Democrats expected the GOP to filibuster the legislation and brought it up to make a point to voters ahead of the 2024 election, viewing reproductive rights as a winning issue.

www.nbcnews.com

This was an attempt to protect the rights of U.S. citizens from being taken away. It failed. But it is not over. This bill will come back in one form or another. If Republicans gain power in Congress American people might find themselves fighting to keep their more and more of their reproductive rights, not just abortion, but also ivf and contraception. If the Democrats gain power bills like this to protect rights are more likely to become law.

No it wasn't. This Bill would not protect any rights whatsoever. It is simply a do-nothing grandstanding ploy by Democrats and their fellow travelers to rile up gullible voters.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Senate Republicans block bill to protect access to contraception

Democrats expected the GOP to filibuster the legislation and brought it up to make a point to voters ahead of the 2024 election, viewing reproductive rights as a winning issue.

www.nbcnews.com

This was an attempt to protect the rights of U.S. citizens from being taken away. It failed. But it is not over. This bill will come back in one form or another. If Republicans gain power in Congress American people might find themselves fighting to keep their more and more of their reproductive rights, not just abortion, but also ivf and contraception. If the Democrats gain power bills like this to protect rights are more likely to become law.

I think that they did this too early. It needs to be repeated as close to the election as possible.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I am eternally grateful that none of my grandkids were aborted, I know that much. And several of them could have easily been, before anyone knew about the pregnancies for that matter.

I even made a thread about abortion survivors some time ago , and it hardly was acknowledged that their voice should be important and included on the matter aside from a few decent responses made on their behalf.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If I had the legislative power, I would pass a law giving anyone free contraceptives.
Paid for by the Treasury.

You can get condoms for free in a lot of places. But if you can't afford a pack of condoms, maybe you shouldn't be having sex as you have bigger priorities at that point.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Explain to me how forced birth laws in Republican-led states are not monstrously oppressive of women.

Oh that's easy. He is not a woman. No problem.

 

[Shaul]

I support reproductive rights.

Then buy stock in XEROX.

 

[sun rise]

No it wasn't. This Bill would not protect any rights whatsoever. It is simply a do-nothing grandstanding ploy by Democrats and their fellow travelers to rile up gullible voters.

As opposed to the do nothing grandstanding by the majority in the House which you are presumably in favor of?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am eternally grateful that none of my grandkids were aborted, I know that much. And several of them could have easily been, before anyone knew about the pregnancies for that matter.

Really? They were poor with no one to help them raise a kid? Where were you? I thought that you were relatively well to do.

Wealthy people rarely have a need for abortions. Their abortion rate is probably much lower than the abortion rate for the poor. In reality I bet that all of your daughters were well supported both financially and emotionally. They are not the people that need their rights to be protected.

A little bit of empathy and perhaps you could understand how important these rights are. Imagine yourself as young and poor without any support from your family or the father. Are you sure that you would not consider abortion?

 

[Shaul]

Some think that abortion will be a key to the upcoming election. It won't be. Abortion is way down the list of the top issue for voters. Voters are far more concerned about bread and butter issues.

Gallup poll on top voter issues

But Democrats and Leftists (sorry for the redundancy) know they can't succeed talking about bread and butter issues. So they prefer to change the subject. Leftists are self delusional.

 

[Shaul]

As opposed to the do nothing grandstanding by the majority in the House which you are presumably in favor of?

The House hasn't introduced a grandstanding Bill on abortion.

 

[Pogo]

Or that, you know, we can actually have enough people to replace those who are dying. Because we don't. The birth rate has plummeted below replacement level throughout the developed world and this is one of the most important issues facing us. You can't have a functioning society with a huge and growing population of old people and a shrinking population of young working people to support them. The economy will fall apart over that alone, and we already have plenty of other reasons why it's falling apart and will get worse.

We also have plenty of younger people who would love to make up the shortfall in our population. We are only hurting ourselves with our nativist attitudes.

 

[Kathryn]

Really? They were poor with no one to help them raise a kid? Where were you? I thought that you were relatively well to do.

Wealthy people rarely have a need for abortions. Their abortion rate is probably much lower than the abortion rate for the poor. In reality I bet that all of your daughters were well supported both financially and emotionally. They are not the people that need their rights to be protected.

A little bit of empathy and perhaps you could understand how important these rights are. Imagine yourself as young and poor without any support from your family or the father. Are you sure that you would not consider abortion?

Oh, my daughter could have had an abortion. I wasn't that well off, and she was a single mom at age 19. I am not all that well to do, but became moreso after I was married to my third husband, THIRD one, who died unexpectedly. This was several years after my granddaughter was even born. I mean, like she was about five when we got married and about 20 when he died. So no, I wasn't wealthy when my daughter wound up pregnant at age 19. Single. The dad was just 17 or 18 and relinquished his rights by the way. It was a hard time.

And no, she wasn't Catholic and neither was I when she came up pregnant.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

We also have plenty of younger people who would love to make up the shortfall in our population. We are only hurting ourselves with our nativist attitudes.

Yeah, export cheap labor from other countries and screw the native working class. That's the globalist's solution to this - replace us. And they wonder why populism has exploded across the world.

 

[Pogo]

Why shouldn't the person using the contraceptives be the one paying for them?

It is not really that they shouldn't, but since we have set up society so that many can't really afford them, the government assuring their availability to all is cost effective.

 

[Pogo]

No it wasn't. This Bill would not protect any rights whatsoever. It is simply a do-nothing grandstanding ploy by Democrats and their fellow travelers to rile up gullible voters.

The bill was to protect against the future actions of this current SCOTUS, not just grandstanding.

 

[Pogo]

Yeah, export cheap labor from other countries and screw the native working class. That's the globalist's solution to this - replace us. And they wonder why populism has exploded across the world.

Boy did you ever get that backwards. LOL

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Boy did you ever get that backwards. LOL

Maybe. Can you clarify? Why did you mention nativism?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Trump will need to compromise on this as well to guarantee a win.

I'm not sure. When Pence signed his RFRA as governor of Indiana he gave to pressures from various businesses threatening to end all relations with the state over it amd many Republicans were outraged over it. To them, compromise means "Democrats yielding to Conservative ways."
One good thing, however, is the Tea Party candidate who said tbat was expecting a a massive landslide sending him to DC as one of Indiana's Senators, but just before the election he said it was "God's will" and "beautiful" if a rape results in pregnancy and that remark sunk his ship.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It is because of the same legal mechanisms that you lost your precious stand on abortion.

Remember that.

Smoking bans have been thr result of state legislatures and even municipal bodies. Roe v Wade getting lost was an act of the Supreme Court. These are two totally different acts and not at all the same legak mrchanism. One we can even influence, the other we cannot.