• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Ron "pudding fingers" DeSantis suspends his campaign for the republican nomination

tytlyf

Not Religious
Florida is the second freest state in the nation.

Texas is the 17th freest state in the nation.

Why should anyone care about the CATO Institutes' opinion?
Are you a fan of corporate establishment talking heads?
Learn to source your nonsensical articles before passing them off as legitimate.

"The Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank founded by Charles G. Koch and funded by the Koch brothers."
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Aw, c'mon! What could possibly be wrong with putting addictive or harmful substances into food products so people will buy more? Why is it so wrong poison rivers and lakes, if it helps to reduce the cost of the important things, like plastics, that help feed ocean wildlife (hey, if they eat it, they must like it!)?

And the gun lobby makes it clear: freedom is worth sacrificing your children for!
The only reason that conservatives can be so extreme in their positions is because they know democrats are rational and informed so will enact necessary policies. Republicans are the whiny children who want candy for breakfast and democrats are the adults who serve oatmeal.

If there were too few democrats then republicans would have to step up and do somewhat the right thing. As it is conservatives advocate for the extremes and insist democrats are evil and want to destroy rights.

Remember back when McCarthy was still Speaker and republicans demanded budget cuts before they raised the debt ceiling? Well even the republicans couldn’t find much to cut that wouldn’t make them look bad so it resulted in a Biden win. Johnson seems a little smarter but he is still on FOX lying about democrats while he negotiates behind the scenes. FOX won’t report that.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
It's truly amazing how Trump can fail
at keeping his campaign promises, yet
Magas will attribute successes beyond
his control to him.
And then they utterly ignore his treason,
& even his claim that he can legally have
political foes assassinated by the military.
He did not keep all his promises, no president has. He tried though, he had plenty of opposition.

We don't ignore it we just know it is hysteria and not based on actual good evidence. Believe what you want though.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
We don't ignore it we just know it is hysteria and not based on actual good evidence. Believe what you want though.
So you don't believe that Trump ordered Pence to over-turn the election?
Or that Trump threatened secretaries of state with prosecution if they didn't "find" him the needed votes?
Or that he had fake electors in several states?
Or that he had Giuliani file suits claiming election fraud with no evidence presented.
(Giuliani now admits that he lied, & that Trump lost.)
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Ah ok. Why did he not do that while he was president?
Bill Barr is on the record saying he refused to do illegal things that Trump wanted. Mark Milley and other ethical members of Trump’s cabinet have stated similar things. So it was a matter of ethical people being in important positions.

Trump has learned this and is already selecting people who will be loyal and do what he wants, regardless of the law. Trump has stated his intention to go after people who are critical of him, including Barr and Milley. Trump plans to overhaul the DOJ and other agencies and install people loyal to him, and who will follow orders. A serious violation of norms. Trump also asserts he has total immunity, and as such a disturbed person he is likely going to cause a great deal of damage to lives, society and the law. He is a major threat to democracy and stability.
 
Last edited:

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
He did not keep all his promises, no president has. He tried though, he had plenty of opposition.

We don't ignore it we just know it is hysteria and not based on actual good evidence. Believe what you want though.
Truly, you should to stand-up.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
So you don't believe that Trump ordered Pence to over-turn the election?
No
Or that Trump threatened secretaries of state with prosecution if they didn't "find" him the needed votes?
No
Or that he had fake electors in several states?
No
Or that he had Giuliani file suits claiming election fraud with no evidence presented.
(Giuliani now admits that he lied, & that Trump lost.)
Don't know.

If you want a deeper discussion into these things let me know.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Bill Barr is on the record saying he refused to do illegal things that Trump wanted. Mark Milley and other ethical members of Trump’s cabinet have stated similar things. So it was a matter of ethical people being in important positions.

Trump has learned this and is already selecting people who will be loyal and do what he wants, regardless of the law. Trump has stated his intention to go after people who are critical of him, including Barr and Milley. Trump plans to overhaul the DOJ and other agencies and install people loyal to him, and who will follow orders. A serious violation of norms. Trump also asserts he has total immunity, and as such a disturbed person he is likely going to cause a great deal of damage to lives, society and the law. He is a major threat to democracy and stability.
You have a rosy picture of the democrats. They are more corrupt as you think Trump is. He wants to get rid of people that are corrupt, like Biden, Blinken and Garland. You have bought into the fear mongering.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Why should anyone care about the CATO Institutes' opinion?
Are you a fan of corporate establishment talking heads?
Learn to source your nonsensical articles before passing them off as legitimate.

"The Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank founded by Charles G. Koch and funded by the Koch brothers."
After reading your link they sound pretty damn good to me. Probably two of the most dedicated and honest libertarian billionaires left on the planet who care for the welfare of not just the country and it's corporate infrastructure, but also of private individuals in the states they reside in.

If any of the Koch family runs for president they will have my vote
 
Top