Rush Limbaugh Believes the Poor Don't Deserve Healthcare

[Magic Man]

In theory you are correct. The problem is, people are going to have to actually do what the doctor tells them they need to do. Take your medicine, quit smoking, control your diabetes, lose weight, etc.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! :sorry1:

Yeah, because everyone in Canada, Europe and every other country that has a form of universal health care has taken their medicine, quit smoking, controlled their diabetes, lost weight, etc. That's why it works so well there. :sarcastic

 

[Morse]

Yeah, because everyone in Canada, Europe and every other country that has a form of universal health care has taken their medicine, quite smoking, controlled their diabetes, lost weight, etc. That's why it works so well there. :sarcastic

I wonder what Europe's national anthem is...

 

[Magic Man]

I wonder what Europe's national anthem is...

They don't have one because they're not a country, and I never said they were.

 

[Morse]

Yeah, because everyone in Canada, Europe and every other country that has a form of universal health care has taken their medicine, quit smoking, controlled their diabetes, lost weight, etc. That's why it works so well there. :sarcastic

Case in point. It was a joke anyway.

 

[Magic Man]

Case in point. It was a joke anyway.

No, I understand what you were getting at, but that doesn't actually say Europe is a country.

 

[Morse]

No, I understand what you were getting at, but that doesn't actually say Europe is a country.

Yes but Europe was placed in between "Canada", a well known country (sort of), and "Other Countries". The logical conclusion about your list would be that its a list of countries. Of course, that would only be if you were intelligent enough to know grammar, but stupid enough to be unable to deduce your meaning. As in, if somebody were to read into the structure but not the context. I knew you weren't implying Europe was a country, but I felt like being a jerk.

 

[Magic Man]

I knew you weren't implying Europe was a country, but I felt like being a jerk.

I know. That's why I wanted to make it clear that technically I never said Europe was a country. I was being a jerk to your jerk to show that your jerkiness was technically not quite accurate.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

In theory you are correct. The problem is, people are going to have to actually do what the doctor tells them they need to do. Take your medicine, quit smoking, control your diabetes, lose weight, etc.

Having insurance is strongly correlated with longer life expectancy, fewer trips to the emergency room, being healthier, etc. So in practice I am correct, health insurance increases care availability and makes people healthier. I read a 30 page report full of figures and data on this topic, I've posted this report on this forum, to you, many times, clearly you never read it. I believe this is the third time you have stated something that is flat out, empirically wrong, just at odds with the data, I repeatedly post the report and quote from it and it looks like you ignore me.

 

[Magic Man]

I believe this is the third time you have stated something that is flat out, empirically wrong, just at odds with the data, I repeatedly post the report and quote from it and it looks like you ignore me.

The third time? I'd be surprised if it was that low.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Posts #53 and 68 demonstrate the kind of thing I'm talking about, I encourage anyone interested to look at the two very basic empirical facts I raised, and how they were ignored.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Having insurance is strongly correlated with longer life expectancy, fewer trips to the emergency room, being healthier, etc. So in practice I am correct

I said in theory you are correct. You ignore that fact that people who live longer go to the doctor more times which costs more money.

This was about how much money is spent on each patient, right?

 

[Magic Man]

I said in theory you are correct. You ignore that fact that people who live longer go to the doctor more times which costs more money.

This was about how much money is spent on each patient, right?

I'd say this makes at least 4 times, huh, Spinkles?

 

[sandy whitelinger]

No, thanks. You obviously don't want to see the reality, which was the reason for my one-word answer. It's very simple to see. Good luck getting that head out of the sand.

Wow, I love a good ad hominem. Or two.

 

[T-Dawg]

Wow, I love a good ad hominem. Or two.

Well, you have a tendency to ignore every point you don't have an answer to, and for him, that's just about everything he says. I can see why he would be angry =/.

If you really want to turn this into an ad hominem attack game, I can start quote digging...

 

[Magic Man]

Wow, I love a good ad hominem. Or two.

Me too, at times. Let me know when you see one.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The problem is, people are going to have to actually do what the doctor tells them they need to do. Take your medicine, quit smoking, control your diabetes, lose weight, etc.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! :sorry1:

A doctor can't force you to do anything. They can, and often will encourage you to make changes, such as quit smoking, but they can't force you to.

 

[Mr Cheese]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpx-hG1uaiA&feature=player_embedded

Do you agree or disagree with Limbaugh over whether the poor deserve access to health care? Why or why not?

Do you think Limbaugh is telling the truth that he is concerned with making America the best society that it can be? Why or why not?

Yawn....

of course Limbaugh is wrong

Of course he is actually being a good republican...
I ahve argued this before.... the idea that poor dont matter is a fundamental of the right wing and the republican......

Once again, I dont think many people even know what they are voting for....
or, they do know what they are voting for and are really not very wothwhile human beings

 

[Mr Spinkles]

I said in theory you are correct. You ignore that fact that people who live longer go to the doctor more times which costs more money.

This was about how much money is spent on each patient, right?

No no, this was about whether or not people are healthier if they have health insurance. This is an empirical question with an empirical answer: yes. That's not theoretical, that's a fact.

My point (one of them anyway) was that if people are healthier they are more productive and this can boost our economy. I cited the Baker Institute of public policy at Rice University to back up this claim.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I am for one am very glad to have health insurance now. I can't really afford it, but it means I can get carpal tunnel surgery, go to a specialist for me shins that are bowed and twisted, and I can actually go to a doctor when I am sick. I can also go to a dentist and it not drain my money for the week.
As for when I got sick before I had insurance, I have no idea what I would have done if my sister wasn't a physicians assistant. I was fortunate enough to just call her to let her know I'm sick and need antibiotics, and she could call in a prescription for me.
If I wouldn't have had insurance through my dad when I tore my ACL, then I REALLY don't know what I would have done, other than have people who are against health insurance pay for my disability checks.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Well, you have a tendency to ignore every point you don't have an answer to, and for him, that's just about everything he says. I can see why he would be angry =/.

If you really want to turn this into an ad hominem attack game, I can start quote digging...

Well, I wouln't say I'm ignoring them, I'm being flippant about it because I really don't want to get into the debate. I'll check back in in a few years and we will see if the Gubmint lying to us. Care to lay a wager?