Orban is evil. Putin is evil.
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Russia v Ukraine who do reckon will win?
- Thread starter JIMMY12345
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I once had a debate with an Islamist after 9/11. He said that once the Caliphate came back into existence then Spain and Eastern Europe would have to be part of it upon pain of war including nuclear war.
So at least some Islamists do although the vast majority of Muslims just want to live their lives in peace.
Europe is supporting Ukraine?
No we are not supporting Ukraine. We are just sending humanitarian aid...but nothing more.
You cannot win against the impossible.
If the elites overseas want to help Soros' friends in Kyiv...they can do that.
Count Europe out.
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Father Heathen
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Even if George Soros is some sort of villain, wtf does that have to do with The people of Ukraine and their fight to defend their land and freedom?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Most Europeans are pro freedom, pro democracy, and pro human rights. The far right fringe neither represents nor speaks for them.
There are international trials. If someone wants to convince me there is no connection among Nuland, Poroshenko, Soros... Zelensky ....okay. ...well...I will acknowledge I am wrong.
Exactly. That's why we are sending humanitarian aid, and we are taking in Ukrainian refugees, more than anyone else. That's the least. But the only way to make peace is with peace. Not with weapons.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Would some tenuous connection justify the theft of land and the murder, torture, rape, subjugation, etc. of civilians?
**** your stupid conspiracy theories. Countless innocent people are suffering and dying due to a tyrant's ego.
exchemist
Veteran Member
As even that article makes clear, the situation was untenable due to the economic conditions in Britain (low interest rates combined with high inflation). Soros and other speculators did not "break the BoE" at all. They merely broke the unsustainable ERM link, thereby bringing to the crunch something that had to happen. The Chancellor of the Exchequer at the time, Norman "Badger" Lamont, was reported to have been singing in the bath the day after the UK left the ERM, as it solved his nightmare problem.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
If you were truly pro peace, you would urge the aggressor to withdraw.
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You really don't pay attention to news, do you.
Ukraine: The EU’s Unprecedented Provision of Lethal Aid is a Good First Step
Just three days after Russia began its war of aggression against Ukraine, the European Union announced that it would provide weapons to Ukraine through a new financing instrument, the European Peace Facility (EPF), marking the first time in EU history that the bloc provided lethal weaponry. Over the past six months, the EU has provided €2.5 billion to Ukraine through the EPF for arms and equipment,
The EU is also giving a lot of money to Ukraine that can be used to buy weapons:
Ukraine Support Tracker - A Database of Military, Financial and Humanitarian Aid to Ukraine
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stvdv
Veteran Member
Hahaha
You clearly lack vision
Your crystal ball needs a huge update
Before you try again to read my mind
stvdv
Veteran Member
That's not military aid. That's humanitarian aid.
The headline said LETHAL aid. The graphic said MILITARY aid. Are you having trouble with the English language?
That is supporting Ukraine.
Not much, but it's something,
especially considering Italy's
love for Putin.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I don't need a crystal ball, just the RW propaganda trough you feed from.
Aštra’el
Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
There are no “good guys” or “bad guys” in this war. Between Russia and Ukraine, I favor Russia… but win or lose, it really hardly matters to me.
Unfortunately, this is not just “Russia vs Ukraine”. This is Russia vs everybody siding with Ukraine, including America. I do not approve at all of giving the beggar Zelenskyy billions of dollars of American money, when that money could have instead been used to improve the lives of countless Americans.
I say… let them have their war. Whoever falls, falls. If your country lacks the ability to defend itself… do you really think you “deserve” it? Would you even be proud of it, knowing your “great country” only exists because the world pities you?
Unfortunately, this is not just “Russia vs Ukraine”. This is Russia vs everybody siding with Ukraine, including America. I do not approve at all of giving the beggar Zelenskyy billions of dollars of American money, when that money could have instead been used to improve the lives of countless Americans.
I say… let them have their war. Whoever falls, falls. If your country lacks the ability to defend itself… do you really think you “deserve” it? Would you even be proud of it, knowing your “great country” only exists because the world pities you?
Could you expand on that? I was unaware that Italy might support Putin in any way.