"Russia Will Be a Muslim Country"

[Gharib]

Tolerance goes both ways, and you cannot expect us to be tolerant of Islam if Islam is not tolerant of us.

well have i come to take your home, the actual home that you live in, no i haven't. i simply wish to go to another part of the land that Allah created for me and all humanity. who are you to deny that freesom and take it away from me. you want to go to my counry, be my guest. i'll even show you around. but it is all about the religion, and that has been shown here.

 

[Yerda]

There will come a time, but the movement has to come from the ground up. For now I just work with the few political parties willing to take a stand, and support is growing. Hopefully it will never have to come to violence.

There will come a time when what?

 

[Zephyr]

There will come a time when what?

When people finally get tired of Muslims in their homelands and shake off.

 

[Yerda]

When people finally get tired of Muslims in their homelands and shake off.

Shake off?

 

[YmirGF]

Shake off?

Perhaps it is a post-baptismal thing.

 

[Zephyr]

Shake off?

Do whatever it takes to show what's acceptable in a modern secular society. Hopefully it will come to a peaceful solution, but one has to be prepared for the fact that it might not.

 

[Yerda]

Do whatever it takes to show what's acceptable in a modern secular society. Hopefully it will come to a peaceful solution, but one has to be prepared for the fact that it might not.

I see. The Muslims I have met know fine well how to behave accordingly in a secular democracy.

Curiously enough, Zephyr, the people who have a grudge against Islam don't - the nationalists, the ones sick of having Muslims (and anyone else) in "their" homeland, the ones who seek repatriation for people with darker shades of skin. For every loonie Muslim who wants The West destroyed there are ten idiots who want it "purified".

Where do you stand on the issue?

 

[Zephyr]

I see. The Muslims I have met know fine well how to behave accordingly in a secular democracy.

Curiously enough, Zephyr, the people who have a grudge against Islam don't - the nationalists, the ones sick of having Muslims (and anyone else) in "their" homeland, the ones who seek repatriation for people with darker shades of skin. For every loonie Muslim who wants The West destroyed there are ten idiots who want it "purified".

Where do you stand on the issue?

I'm an ethnic nationalist. National/Tribal anarchist is probably a bit better of a description really. I think basing a nation on something as stupid as skin color (as opposed to religion or culture or ancestry) is a dumb move, but I support their right to form their own little autonomous nation.

 

[England my lionheart]

"Author Eeva Nikkilä-Kiipula, quotes a government report in the newspaper Aamulehti which claims Muslims are seriously changing the essential character of the Russian population. According to a report, these changes already represent a serious challenge to Russian internal stability and domestic policy.

The last 20 years have seen important demographic changes in Russia. At the beginning of the 1990s, 149 million Russians lived in the country. By 2007 the total was seven million less. Numbers are diminishing by approximately 400,000 per year.

The situation is completely different in areas with a Muslim majority. There the population is growing. Average life-expectancy is considerably higher than in traditional Russian areas. If demographic growth continues in the same way, by 2015 the majority of Russian army conscripts will be Muslims. Five years later 20% of all Russians will be Muslims. By mid-century, a majority of the Russian population will be Muslim."

Russia Will Be a Muslim Country : Ashley Mote MEP

What impact will this change have?

There will be a mass exodus of Russians comrade

 

[Yerda]

I'm an ethnic nationalist. National/Tribal anarchist is probably a bit better of a description really. I think basing a nation on something as stupid as skin color (as opposed to religion or culture or ancestry) is a dumb move, but I support their right to form their own little autonomous nation.

I agree.

 

[Zephyr]

I agree.

I must admit...I did not see this coming.

 

[Yerda]

I must admit...I did not see this coming.

I'm not an ethnic nationalist, or a nationalists of any type infact. Ethnicity is not a concern of mine. I find nothing disagreeable within this statement however:

I think basing a nation on something as stupid as skin color (as opposed to religion or culture or ancestry) is a dumb move, but I support their right to form their own little autonomous nation.

 

[Zephyr]

I'm not an ethnic nationalist, or a nationalists of any type infact. Ethnicity is not a concern of mine. I find nothing disagreeable within this statement however:

I think basing a nation on something as stupid as skin color (as opposed to religion or culture or ancestry) is a dumb move, but I support their right to form their own little autonomous nation.

And that's just how I took it. I was just surprised given how much hostility such ideas are often met with.

 

[Yerda]

And that's just how I took it. I was just surprised given how much hostility such ideas are often met with.

Really? That surprises me too.

 

[Ciscokid]

i wonder why christians ,atheists and everyone else on earth can have nuclear weapons while muslims can't ? is it because they are the only violent terrorists in a civilized peaceful world ?!

Do you see Catholics slamming planes in buildings?

 

[Gharib]

Do you see Catholics slamming planes in buildings?

do you see muslims killing innocent people or children to be more specific. we can't all be like the americans now can we.

 

[darkendless]

do you see muslims killing innocent people or children to be more specific. we can't all be like the americans now can we.

Those kids probably would have died in poverty anyway or got so angry with their poverty-ridden lives that they decided to join the Taleban.

Its become common to see people have a whinge at America for making their lives better. Ingrateful and downright disgusting.

 

[Gharib]

Those kids probably would have died in poverty anyway or got so angry with their poverty-ridden lives that they decided to join the Taleban.

Its become common to see people have a whinge at America for making their lives better. Ingrateful and downright disgusting.

you know, if we start thinking the way you do the world would stop to turn.
lets analyse from your perspective; those planes would have fallen down some day, and those buildings would have been demolished some day, so crashing those planes into those buildings was like killing to birds with one stone. i did say that the world would stop tuning if we thought the way you do.

 

[Ciscokid]

do you see muslims killing innocent people or children to be more specific. we can't all be like the americans now can we.

I recall reading about Muslims purposely rigging cars with explosives that had children on board so that the patrol folks would not suspect anything.

I also recall reading that they were strapping bombs on the mentally disabled and having them walk around in the marketplace as they wouldn't know to object.

I honestly don't have issues with civilized Muslims....but I couldn't care less if a meteor destroyed the middle east.

 

[Gharib]

I recall reading about Muslims purposely rigging cars with explosives that had children on board so that the patrol folks would not suspect anything.

I also recall reading that they were strapping bombs on the mentally disabled and having them walk around in the marketplace as they wouldn't know to object.

I honestly don't have issues with civilized Muslims....but I couldn't care less if a meteor destroyed the middle east.

did you actually witness that "strapping" part? i'm really interested to know because if you didn't and you just beleived what someone else said then hear me too. they are lies, you must accept my word just as you have accepted that of another person, but if you actually were there then thats a different story.
were or were you not there when the "strapping" took place?