"Russia Will Be a Muslim Country"

[Zephyr]

check mate!

It gets better. Historically, the evidence for my gods goes back much further than Islam, or even Christianity. And if you want to try and dispute anything using the supposed science in the Quran, I can do that too

 

[challupa]

It gets better. Historically, the evidence for my gods goes back much further than Islam, or even Christianity. And if you want to try and dispute anything using the supposed science in the Quran, I can do that too

Well that shouldn't be too difficult! Have atter.

 

[Zephyr]

Well that shouldn't be too difficult! Have atter.

I mostly just put that there in case eselam wanted to put one of the many "proofs" of science in the Quran, all of which require some pretty heavy interpretation to get anything coherent out of.

 

[challupa]

I mostly just put that there in case eselam wanted to put one of the many "proofs" of science in the Quran, all of which require some pretty heavy interpretation to get anything coherent out of.

Well I think he did it to himself a couple of pages back. He's backpedelling pretty fast. He doesn't seem to quote the Quran too often, just offers his opinions as though they are facts.

 

[Ciscokid]

Where your evidence for your god?

Looks like he got all quiet all of a sudden. Didn't expect much anyway.

 

[Zephyr]

Well I think he did it to himself a couple of pages back. He's backpedelling pretty fast. He doesn't seem to quote the Quran too often, just offers his opinions as though they are facts.

The Eddas attests that there are 9 worlds, just like in our solar system! They are as follows:
Asgardr, Alfheimr, Muspellsheimr, Vanaheimr, Midgardr, Jotunheimr, Niflheimr, Hel, and Svartalfheimr.

Now you might say "But Zephyr, there are only 8 planets in the solar system!" But note that Muspell is a land of fire, not unlike the Sun! The Eddas tell us all the science about the solar system hundreds of years before the discovery of Neptune, the further planet in the system. Clearly this is the Aesir's work, giving humanity the gift of knowledge about the solar system. There is no way the authors could have known this great knowledge without divine influence! After all, many were illiterate. How could a couple illiterate farmers and musicians have known all this? This obviously means that the Eddas are right when it comes to other matters as well!

See? We Heathens can play the "science means validity" game too.

 

[challupa]

The Eddas attests that there are 9 worlds, just like in our solar system! They are as follows:
Asgardr, Alfheimr, Muspellsheimr, Vanaheimr, Midgardr, Jotunheimr, Niflheimr, Hel, and Svartalfheimr.

Now you might say "But Zephyr, there are only 8 planets in the solar system!" But note that Muspell is a land of fire, not unlike the Sun! The Eddas tell us all the science about the solar system hundreds of years before the discovery of Neptune, the further planet in the system. Clearly this is the Aesir's work, giving humanity the gift of knowledge about the solar system. There is no way the authors could have known this great knowledge without divine influence! After all, many were illiterate. How could a couple illiterate farmers and musicians have known all this? This obviously means that the Eddas are right when it comes to other matters as well!

See? We Heathens can play the "science means validity" game too.

Actually that is interesting, but this is a tad off topic. The Ancient Sumerians also knew about Pluto and we didn't even know about it until the 1900's. The ancients actually knew a lot. We have yet to figure out how they knew!

 

[Zephyr]

Actually that is interesting, but this is a tad off topic. The Ancient Sumerians also knew about Pluto and we didn't even know about it until the 1900's. The ancients actually knew a lot. We have yet to figure out how they knew!

It was meant as a joke, and as a rebuttal to the Muslims here and elsewhere who will interpret verses from the Quran as scientific facts, though oddly enough for all the supposed science in the Quran I have yet to see any predictions being made and fulfilled, only things being found after good old-fashioned science has already discovered them.

 

[challupa]

It was meant as a joke, and as a rebuttal to the Muslims here and elsewhere who will interpret verses from the Quran as scientific facts, though oddly enough for all the supposed science in the Quran I have yet to see any predictions being made and fulfilled, only things being found after good old-fashioned science has already discovered them.

Yes as far as the Quran goes, there is nothing that is scientific. It is a bit more in line with science then the bible but it should be since it is at least 500 years newer and they should have known a little more.

You're joking in your post, but it triggered that bit I had learned about the Sumerians knowing about Pluto, so thought I would share it.

 

[Gharib]

Where your evidence for your god?

um..... he created me + you +everything else. and he gives and takes life.

 

[Gharib]

Well, here's the beauty of it all: I have just as much evidence of their existence as you have of Allah's existence. You have the Quran, I have the Eddas. If you'd dispute my evidence you'd be disputing your own as well.

i witness Allahs' power everyday.

 

[Gharib]

check mate!

not even close, you know it is wrong to assume something before it is even close of happening.

 

[Gharib]

It gets better. Historically, the evidence for my gods goes back much further than Islam, or even Christianity. And if you want to try and dispute anything using the supposed science in the Quran, I can do that too

Allah is eternal. so he is the creator of everything, historical evidence, is mad people thinking that rocks will benefit them, and what sort of gods are you speaking of?

Subhanallah, Allah has no partners.

 

[Gharib]

Well I think he did it to himself a couple of pages back. He's backpedelling pretty fast. He doesn't seem to quote the Quran too often, just offers his opinions as though they are facts.

ok i will use the quran more often , i have not used it much, thank you.

so according to your statement, the quran is fatcs. so i agree, it would be pointless for anyone to say the quran isn' true, cos a non muslims calls it fact.

if you had only posted this before, tolled you it is wrong to assume things.

 

[Gharib]

Looks like he got all quiet all of a sudden. Didn't expect much anyway.

sure, anything you say.

 

[Gharib]

It was meant as a joke, and as a rebuttal to the Muslims here and elsewhere who will interpret verses from the Quran as scientific facts, though oddly enough for all the supposed science in the Quran I have yet to see any predictions being made and fulfilled, only things being found after good old-fashioned science has already discovered them.

i'll give you some examples of such events, one a very recent, that is going on as we speak.

 

[Smoke]

The Eddas attests that there are 9 worlds, just like in our solar system! They are as follows:
Asgardr, Alfheimr, Muspellsheimr, Vanaheimr, Midgardr, Jotunheimr, Niflheimr, Hel, and Svartalfheimr.

Now you might say "But Zephyr, there are only 8 planets in the solar system!" But note that Muspell is a land of fire, not unlike the Sun! The Eddas tell us all the science about the solar system hundreds of years before the discovery of Neptune, the further planet in the system. Clearly this is the Aesir's work, giving humanity the gift of knowledge about the solar system. There is no way the authors could have known this great knowledge without divine influence! After all, many were illiterate. How could a couple illiterate farmers and musicians have known all this? This obviously means that the Eddas are right when it comes to other matters as well!

See? We Heathens can play the "science means validity" game too.

I wish the system would allow me to frubal you as often as I'd like to.

 

[challupa]

ok i will use the quran more often , i have not used it much, thank you.

so according to your statement, the quran is fatcs. so i agree, it would be pointless for anyone to say the quran isn' true, cos a non muslims calls it fact.

if you had only posted this before, tolled you it is wrong to assume things.

Hmm, and don't assume we will take the Quran as factual either. However, you are Islamic so I am assuming your source would be the Quran? No one can say that their god is the only god, their way the only right way and expect anyone to believe them. Surely you must know that by now.

 

[Zephyr]

um..... he created me + you +everything else. and he gives and takes life.

You kidding? Clearly Odin, Hoenir, and Lodur created us from the mighty ash and elm trees! Can't you witness the powers of the Aesir, Vanir, and Landvaettir everyday? I sure do!

I wish the system would allow me to frubal you as often as I'd like to.

It's the thought that counts, though the frubals are nice too.

 

[Gharib]

Hmm, and don't assume we will take the Quran as factual either.

but you said......:slap:

However, you are Islamic so I am assuming your source would be the Quran?

source for what?

No one can say that their god is the only god, their way the only right way and expect anyone to believe them. Surely you must know that by now.

have said that many times, but i never expect people to accept it, once a dog gets used to eating shpagheti, they won't change to pasta lol