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"Russia Will Be a Muslim Country"

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Yeah, and it's really a shame. Some parents, like Allah, really suck at raising children right.

nope wrong this time. Allah is actually very good, see he has created you to worship him, even though you do not worship him and do not acknowledge him, he has given you many worldly things to enjoy.
 

Zephyr

Moved on
nope wrong this time. Allah is actually very good, see he has created you to worship him, even though you do not worship him and do not acknowledge him, he has given you many worldly things to enjoy.

If the Quran is true, Allah is an egomaniacal tyrant, creating people only to worship him. Even if Allah really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him.


(I hope nobody minds me butchering a Bakunin quote)
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
If the Quran is true, Allah is an egomaniacal tyrant, creating people only to worship him. Even if Allah really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him.


(I hope nobody minds me butchering a Bakunin quote)

thats the whole point of us being created, to worship for some time, then to be rewarded for a limitles/infinite life. just as we obey our parents for some years then we are free to do what we want.
 

Zephyr

Moved on
thats the whole point of us being created, to worship for some time, then to be rewarded for a limitles/infinite life. just as we obey our parents for some years then we are free to do what we want.

The difference is that if you don't worship you get an eternity of torture. Allah is a tyrant. Worse yet, he is an excessively cruel tyrant beyond what any mortal could possibly aspire to be. He isn't worthy of worship.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
The difference is that if you don't worship you get an eternity of torture. Allah is a tyrant. Worse yet, he is an excessively cruel tyrant beyond what any mortal could possibly aspire to be. He isn't worthy of worship.

friend i would be carefull in using tha tyrant word, i read a hadith that said if you say that Allah is not mercifull, then he won't be to that person, i'm just telling you about it.

well the reason for eternal torture is because you are not a muslim and yet you asossiate Allah many things that are not true, just as a government punishes those who do not go by the rules. All the governments are tyrants too, so why do you do as they say?
 

Zephyr

Moved on
friend i would be carefull in using tha tyrant word, i read a hadith that said if you say that Allah is not mercifull, then he won't be to that person, i'm just telling you about it.
Then let him bring it. I bow to no masters, especially those who demand that degree of slavery.

well the reason for eternal torture is because you are not a muslim and yet you asossiate Allah many things that are not true, just as a government punishes those who do not go by the rules. All the governments are tyrants too, so why do you do as they say?
I don't ;).
 

Zephyr

Moved on
yeah sure, in which country do you live in? would you mind telling me,
I'm from the states.

and i sopose you never ever drive at 60 km/h, it is always 100 for you.
60 km/h is actually quite a bit below the speed limits on highways here. And no, when on big trips (for instance, the 5 hour ride between school and my hometown) I'll usually go a few over aside from in the known speed traps. If I end up following a law, it is purely a coincidence. Either I feel that the particular action is for my own good as well (and I would do it even if it weren't the law) or it's just an accident.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
I'm from the states.

oh yeah i missed your location at the top.

60 km/h is actually quite a bit below the speed limits on highways here. And no, when on big trips (for instance, the 5 hour ride between school and my hometown) I'll usually go a few over aside from in the known speed traps. If I end up following a law, it is purely a coincidence. Either I feel that the particular action is for my own good as well (and I would do it even if it weren't the law) or it's just an accident.

exactly what i'm saying, the government has put those signs there for your benefit, just as Allah tells us to worship him and abide by his rules, because they will benefit us in the long term, infinity.
 

Zephyr

Moved on
exactly what i'm saying, the government has put those signs there for your benefit, just as Allah tells us to worship him and abide by his rules, because they will benefit us in the long term, infinity.

Guess we should have never ratified the 13th amendment here then eh? They were enslaved for their own good I say!

Allah is far worse than any southern slaver could ever be, since his forced servitude goes far beyond this life.

I don't agree that laws are all made for our benefit. If I did, I wouldn't break so many of them so often.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Guess we should have never ratified the 13th amendment here then eh? They were enslaved for their own good I say!

Allah is far worse than any southern slaver could ever be, since his forced servitude goes far beyond this life.

I don't agree that laws are all made for our benefit. If I did, I wouldn't break so many of them so often.

thats right you wouldn't break them, thats the same thing that Allah wants.
 

Zephyr

Moved on
thats right you wouldn't break them, thats the same thing that Allah wants.

And yet, many of Allah's laws are stupid and oppressive, so I break them all the time. Hell, I'm sipping on a cuba libre this very moment, and I'm sure a lot of what I have said in this thread alone counts as blasphemy.

Unjust laws should be broken. Tyrannous gods should be opposed.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
And yet, many of Allah's laws are stupid and oppressive, so I break them all the time. Hell, I'm sipping on a cuba libre this very moment, and I'm sure a lot of what I have said in this thread alone counts as blasphemy.

Unjust laws should be broken. Tyrannous gods should be opposed.

nope wrong again, this is strike 2 one more and i will not belive in what you say :D

thats a joke, just incase you don't get it. explaining that it is a joke just doesn't make it interesting does it?
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
And yet, many of Allah's laws are stupid and oppressive, so I break them all the time. Hell, I'm sipping on a cuba libre this very moment, and I'm sure a lot of what I have said in this thread alone counts as blasphemy.

Unjust laws should be broken. Tyrannous gods should be opposed.

Tyrannical gods were created by tyrannical men to control the weak, the stupid and the impressionable.
 
Let us hope this NEVER happens... The presence of Islam in the UK has grown too strong... They are allowed to do what they want, and it is allowed too... I like France in that sense. Do what we do or go away.
 
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