Quote H(luv)K: "vipro rajanya vaishyo cha harehe praptaha padantikam , shroten janmanathapi muhyantyamnayavadinah (BP 11.5.5)
Meaning:Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vaishyas are very near to Shri Haris feet by virtue of their birth and Vedic ceremonies.
Your fixation on your birth and "superiority" by birth and race is so important to you, that you are commiting interpolation right before our eyes, splicing a verse and thus writing your own verse by the crime of omission and disgracing and interpolating scriptures as was done in the past by like-minded extremists who simply wanted to engrain their own power structure and subjegate others.
You didn't even state the entire verse here.
Here is 11.5.4 prior to what you quote, then the entire 11.5.5 verse:
SB 11.5.4: There are many persons who have little opportunity to take part in discussions about the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Hari, and thus it is difficult for them to chant His infallible glories. Persons such as women, sudras and other fallen classes always deserve the mercy of great personalities like yourself.
SB 11.5.5: On the other hand, brahmanas, members of the royal order and vaisyas, even after being allowed to approach the lotus feet of the Supreme Lord, Hari, by receiving the second birth of Vedic initiation,
can become bewildered and adopt various materialistic philosophies.
--- vipra - the brāhmaṇas; rājanya-vaiśyau of the royal order and the vaiśyas; vā or; hareḥ of the Supreme Lord, Hari; prāptāḥ after being allowed to approach; pada-antikam near the lotus feet; śrautena janmanā by having received the second birth of Vedic initiation; atha then; api even; muhyanti bewildered; āmnāya-vādinaḥ adopting various materialistic philosophies. ---
The spirit of the entire 11th Canto, Section 5 is exactly the opposite of your extremism, but you are so fixated on this you will commit the sin of trying to re-write scripture and interpolation is what extremists do as has be proven historically by actual Hindu and Vedic scholars. Do you understand that splicing part of a verse to suit your fixation is hellish an cruel-minded?
The SB goes on to say:
SB 11.5.9: The intelligence of cruel-minded persons is blinded by false pride based on great wealth, opulence, prestigious family connections, education, renunciation, personal beauty, physical strength and successful performance of Vedic rituals. Being intoxicated with this false pride, such cruel persons blaspheme the Supreme Personality of Godhead and His devotees.
And speaking of hellish and hell and this game of splicing verses, I can show splice and dice verses saying there is no hell, then another saying there is a hell, and yet others saying the are multiple hells. So? And the first is correct, the last is false, the middle correct, the first false? Playing games with verses means nothing, taking one splice and saying it is "literal" is a joke.
The fact is your "by birth only" extremist rejection of Vedic gunas and your violation of the entire spirit of the Upanishads is why others can try and give Hinduism a bad name because all you do is parrot this racist "by birth" self-promotion and completely derail the very spirit of others OP with off-subject hate of all other Hindus who do not subscribe to your extremist views.
And what you also overlook is, there are millions of Hindus who do not even follow or read or consider BP/SP. They follow Saiva scripture or Vedic scripture.
Speaking of Vedas and twice born, let me again state my teaching based on Vedic authority and not interpolation:
The question of twice born might go to the crux of the matter.
The four Vedas are traditional, not later interpretations.
In Vedic Dharma, for the One who learns the Vedas, this Vedic student is called Brahmacharin, and as the Atharva Veda outlines the rite, the parents of this student who learns the Vedas is not one's birth parents and learning the Vedas has nothing to do with birth, rather for such a student his father is his Acharya or teacher, not birth father, his mother is Savitri of the Sun, not his birth mother. This is the stipulation of the Vedas and as the Atharva Veda says (11.5.3) the Acharya upon taking the student to learn the Vedas then spiritually takes the student within the Acharya's own self making the Vedic student an embryo within, this Acharya holds the student within for three nights upon which the Devas gather to see this student born in transformation from the Archarya, who is now the student's father. This is the true Vedic second birth, the traditional act.
The Acharya was not a priest who simply performs a ceremony as what became later under caste centric sects, He was endowed in Vedic times to give a second birth from His own in actual transformation of the student to His own new brahmacharin Son. Now with his Mother as Savitri of the Sun and Acharya as Father, the Vedic student is twice born.
The Atharva Ved then clarifies (11.5.6) the Vedic student clothes himself in the black antelopeskin (as we see Lord Rudra), and does not shave but grows a long beard, much like the Acharya. The Vedic student who was first brought alms (11.5.9) to the Acharya now is One who carries also the name and reputation of his new Father the Acharya.
Here is the beauty of Vedic Dharma. This is the traditional Hindu second birth. Not caste. This is the best way to protect the Vedas from interlopers, it is too dangerous to rely on birth. Here we now have as in this Veda the Upanayana which means sheltering the student in the womb of the Acharya, and from which comes the word Upanishad or sitting near the teacher.
This is traditional Hinduism. By the way, a Brahmin who is Tamil pointed out that the Vedic Upanayana had no investiture of a Yajnopavitam or sacred thread as performed today.
Twice-born. How is simply being born is twice-born? By birth anyone, everyone has got some father and mother because without father and mother, there is no question of birth. So the beast has also got father and mother, and the bird has also father and mother. Similarly, a human being has also got father and mother. So this birth, by father and mother, is not sufficient for becoming a dvija. He has to take his birth again.
That second birth is the process described in the Arthava Veda, where the Acharya becomes your new Father and Savitri your new Mother. Now you are twice born. Those who become the true student of the Acharya or teacher of the Veda are very few. Very few will take this course. So yes, it is very rare that it happens. To be twice born, this is better than being a priest in a temple. Those truly twice born, are few in this world.
But there those such as Vishwamitra. He became higher than a temple priest. He became a Brahmarishi, which is not a caste and higher than any caste. He was a warrior by clan, and came from this family of Kshatriya. But then he obtained Brahmavidya and composed the Gayatri mantra. That is why his Name, Friend of the World, is so appropriate. His original name was Kaushika, and with his army he entered into the wild and came upon the hermitage of the sage Vasishta. Here upon finding the surroundings so peaceful, his army received a feast and Kaushika asked Sage Vasishta, how can it be that you feed such a large army?
The Sage had feed them all, those warriors of the army considered lower than the Sage in hierarchy. It was by the calf Nandini given to him by Indra that they could all be feed. The holy calf given by Indra feed those warriors. Upon this, Kaushika wanted to buy this cafe from Vasishta for a large amount of wealth. The Sage denied this request, so Kaushika ordered his army to steal the calf forcefully.
The Sage brought forth a spiritual army that defeated his soldiers.
And so, Kaushika gave up his throne and became an ascetic which is a true great hero. Over time, Vasishta himself became an Acharya to this warrior ascetic. So great was his meditation and qualities, Brahma then gave him the title Brahmarishi and a NEW NAME, Vishwamitra. He was now twice born, and given a title higher than a brahmin.
There was a dialog a while back that included self-appointed experts on the Vedas who actually were only interested in birth-based fixations and self-interests who were respectively requested to provide one quote from the Vedas that explicitly states a Brahmana is only one born from a father and a mother who is a Brahmana and no one who is not born from a Brahmana father and mother is or can be Brahmana.
They could never provide any such quote. Because it doesn't exist in the Vedas.
If one's caste, varna, jati "only by birth" was the most critcal fixation of importance to everything, why didn't the Divine make it easy for everyone by putting some brand right on the nose of everyone born, not some attire someone puts on later, but branded right on their nose or forehead like a big letter "B" for brahmin, "U" for untouchable? If by birth is the end all of be all, it certainly would have made things easier.
Or perhaps the Divine doesn't believe in branding.
You are not anyone to dare say billions of Africans because they are not "by birth" your DNA (which DNA is so mixed up by this point in time even you cannot claim by birth anything), that billions of Asians, millions of Euros, as well as millions born in India cannot be Hindu. Enablers of hate crimes are, in the opinion of many, themselves outside of Sanatana Dharma, are the typical interpolationists who have done a discredit to Vaidic Dharma.
Om Namah Sivaya
