Same Sex Marriage

[Christian Pilgrim]

Same Sex Marriage:​

I want to hear and discuss different views in regards to same sex marriage. I would like to hear from all religious and secular views. As a Christian, the Scripture teaches that all sex outside of marriage is sin. The Apostle Paul tells us if we have no self-control as a single Christian, then we should marry. An obedient Christian is called to remain celibate until they are married. For the heterosexual or homosexual Christians, they are to remain celibate until they are married. So, what are your views in regards to same sex marriage? I have not made a conclusion either way; therefore, I want to hear all sincere views.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

As a Christian, the Scripture teaches that all sex outside of marriage is sin.

Where does it say that I wonder?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Same Sex Marriage:​

I want to hear and discuss different views in regards to same sex marriage. I would like to hear from all religious and secular views. As a Christian, the Scripture teaches that all sex outside of marriage is sin. The Apostle Paul tells us if we have no self-control as a single Christian, then we should marry. An obedient Christian is called to remain celibate until they are married. For the heterosexual or homosexual Christians, they are to remain celibate until they are married. So, what are your views in regards to same sex marriage? I have not made a conclusion either way; therefore, I want to hear all sincere views.

What does the Bible say about whether Christians should force non-Christians to adhere to Christian doctrine?

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

Where does it say that I wonder?

I don't want to debate that the Bible teaches the sex outside of marriage is sin on this thread. Do you mind starting a new thread on that topic? - Thanks!

 

[Autodidact]

Are you sure you don't want to plow through the many threads on this topic already in the forum?

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

What does the Bible say about whether Christians should force non-Christians to adhere to Christian doctrine?

I am not asking anyone to adhere to Christian doctrine. I would just appreciate your views on same sex marriages, regardless of your religious views. Let's please stick to the thread topic.

 

[sandandfoam]

Of course there should be same sex marriage, to my mind it's a no-brainer.

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

Are you sure you don't want to plow through the many threads on this topic already in the forum?

I would really appreciate it, if you don't mind. Since you are a lesbian, please share your view on same sex marriage. Do you advocate being commited in marriage to one person throughout your life?

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

Of course there should be same sex marriage, to my mind it's a no-brainer.

Thanks for your view. I am not disagreeing or agreeing with you. Could you please share how you made this conclusion, based on what source?

 

[sandandfoam]

Thanks for your view. I am not disagreeing or agreeing with you. Could you please share how you made this conclusion, based on what source?

Equality.

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

Equality.

Very good answer!

Matthew 7:12
The Golden Rule

“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I am not asking anyone to adhere to Christian doctrine.

But I think that's what prohibition of same-sex marriage often comes down to. My point was just to call attention to the fact that a person can consider same-sex marriage to be against his or her religion without demanding that it be prohibited for everyone.

I would just appreciate your views on same sex marriages, regardless of your religious views. Let's please stick to the thread topic.

I'm in favour of legalizing same-sex marriage and giving all married couples the same rights, regardless of the genders involved. As for my own personal choices, I don't think my wife would appreciate it if I were to try to get married to a man.

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

But I think that's what prohibition of same-sex marriage often comes down to. My point was just to call attention to the fact that a person can consider same-sex marriage to be against his or her religion without demanding that it be prohibited for everyone.


I'm in favour of legalizing same-sex marriage and giving all married couples the same rights, regardless of the genders involved. As for my own personal choices, I don't think my wife would appreciate it if I were to try to get married to a man.

As you pointed out, I think same sex marriage is an easier call for secular people. I see your point much clearer, why should a religious belief define or limit a secular person to be married. I'm all for equal civil rights for gays and lesbians. I think the subject is more challenging for both hetrosexual and homosexual Christians.

For the secular gay or lesbian, why would it be important to be married through the state? I honestly want to hear all views without judgement or condemnation.

For the gay or lesbian Christians out there, do you think God honors same sex marriages, why or why not?

 

[tumbleweed41]

For the secular gay or lesbian, why would it be important to be married through the state? I honestly want to hear all views without judgement or condemnation.

Why is it important for any secular couple, gay, lesbian or hetero, to have a state sanctioned marriage?
One would not suggest that state sanctioned marriage is unimportant to the hetero couple. So why would it not have the same importance to a same sex couple?

 

[sandandfoam]

For the secular gay or lesbian, why would it be important to be married through the state? I

Same reasons as everyone else, property rights succession etc

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

For the secular gay or lesbian, why would it be important to be married through the state? I honestly want to hear all views without judgement or condemnation.

For me, I think it was because of the tradition and social convention of marriage as a declaration of love and commitment. I love my wife and I'm committed to her, so it made sense to me to marry her. Also, marriage was important to my wife for religious reasons, and what's important to my wife is important to me.

In some places in the world, a couple needs to go through a wedding ceremony to get certain government benefits, but that's not the case in Canada: here, you're deemed married in the eyes of the law if you co-habitate with your partner for two years or live together with a child.

 

[CarlinKnew]

For the secular gay or lesbian, why would it be important to be married through the state?

This very question reveals your prejudice. Why wouldn't you ask the same about heterosexuals?

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

Why is it important for any secular couple, gay, lesbian or hetero, to have a state sanctioned marriage?
One would not suggest that state sanctioned marriage is unimportant to the hetero couple. So why would it not have the same importance to a same sex couple?

That's another excellent point. We all see things through our personal worldviews. From a Christian worldview, marriage is from God and parallels Christ being the bridegroom and the church being the bride. Therefore, why would it be important for secular couples to get married? The divorce rate is the same for both groups.

Let's follow that thought, why is it important for secular couples to get married?

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

So, what are your views in regards to same sex marriage? I have not made a conclusion either way; therefore, I want to hear all sincere views. ​

I reject the Abrahamic notion that marriage is only defined by the church. I believe we should approach marriage in the same way that the ancient Celtic people did.

Ancient Celts: Celtic Marriage

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

For me, I think it was because of the tradition and social convention of marriage as a declaration of love and commitment. I love my wife and I'm committed to her, so it made sense to me to marry her. Also, marriage was important to my wife for religious reasons, and what's important to my wife is important to me.

In some places in the world, a couple needs to go through a wedding ceremony to get certain government benefits, but that's not the case in Canada: here, you're deemed married in the eyes of the law if you co-habitate with your partner for two years or live together with a child.

Okay, if I remember, didn't you marry a Christian? LOL.... not to be taken too seriously, but as a Christian, we are only suppose to marry Christians... according to the Bible. My mom was raised devout Christian and my dad was not, coming from a family who drank wiskey, gambled, and went to chicken fights on Sundays. I love both sides of my family lines!