Sanders Leads Clintion In National Poll

[Revoltingest]

In the news.....
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/19/hil..._that_only_bernie_sanders_can_defeat_the_gop/

Is this prediction, or steering the voters, or both?

Another poll in the news.....
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0e3d...oll-voters-increasingly-see-sanders-electable

 

[esmith]

I'm not a Conservative, Esmith: I try not to be even more stupid than I already am. Thus, I'm skeptical of the FOX poll because FOX polls have a history of not always being reliable -- not because I'm a Hillary supporter. In fact, your assumption that I'm a Hillary supporter happens to also be unnecessarily Conservative stupid. I'm a staunch Sanders supporter.

seems that there are those that don't see that someone is pulling their leg.

 

[Sunstone]

seems that there are those that don't see that someone is pulling their leg.

You sounded pretty serious to me. But if you say so.

 

[esmith]

You sounded pretty serious to me. But if you say so.

Notice the smiley face at the end of the post, If I was serious I would have left it off. I know you are not a supporter of the Hillary.

 

[Sunstone]

Notice the smiley face at the end of the post, If I was serious I would have left it off. I know you are not a supporter of the Hillary.

I believed you, as I stated.

 

[esmith]

Never fear Hillary supporters, she now leads Sanders 483-55 in delegates. Just to keep the record straight Sunstone is NOT a Hillary supporter. (no smiley)
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics...s-lead-in-delegates-despite-sanders-win-in-nh

 

[Sunstone]

Never fear Hillary supporters, she now leads Sanders 483-55 in delegates. Just to keep the record straight Sunstone is NOT a Hillary supporter. (no smiley)
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics...s-lead-in-delegates-despite-sanders-win-in-nh

It amuses me that it's sometimes hard to tell whether you're more obsessed with Clinton, Sanders...or me.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

He didn't win the popular white vote I guess, Romney getting 60% of it, but you're right Obama did win the actual popular vote.

I don't know. I just thought it was really weird that some people were actually going on about Obama not winning the popular vote, even though he won it by a pretty comfortable margin.

Never fear Hillary supporters, she now leads Sanders 483-55 in delegates. Just to keep the record straight Sunstone is NOT a Hillary supporter. (no smiley)
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics...s-lead-in-delegates-despite-sanders-win-in-nh

She was also beating Obama in '08. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing such a near victory yanked from her at the last minute again.

 

[esmith]

It amuses me that it's sometimes hard to tell whether you're more obsessed with Clinton, Sanders...or me.

Nah, just screwing around with humor that just seems to fall flat sometimes.
But I'm sticking with the Hillary/Sanders point.

 

[tytlyf]

FOX News has a history of being off to a large degree at times. WSJ polls don't have such a history, so far as I know. At least not yet.

Although I wonder like you whether that can long continue, given the same owner for both media, and given his track record with the truth.

Take a look at the chart. The WSJ poll is very odd.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/02/18/trump-campaign-cruz-winning-in-new-poll-because/208663

 

[esmith]

Take a look at the chart. The WSJ poll is very odd.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/02/18/trump-campaign-cruz-winning-in-new-poll-because/208663

Therefore if the WSJ poll is odd why isn't the NBC poll odd? Is it because of the WSJ affiliation?

 

[Revoltingest]

Sanders wins again!
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/primaries/WV

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sanders wins again!
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/primaries/WV

I really hope the "super" delegates realize that if they go with Sanders, it puts the Democrats in a much better position for winning the White House, as it will ward off the anti-H. Clinton movements as well as further disenfranchising left and Democrat voters. And it's an easier win for their team during an election where the winner can swing the Supreme Court to the Left. Unfortunately, I don't anticipate them thinking that logically or rationally about it.

 

[Revoltingest]

I really hope the "super" delegates realize that if they go with Sanders, it puts the Democrats in a much better position for winning the White House, as it will ward off the anti-H. Clinton movements as well as further disenfranchising left and Democrat voters. And it's an easier win for their team during an election where the winner can swing the Supreme Court to the Left. Unfortunately, I don't anticipate them thinking that logically or rationally about it.

They might be quite rational, but just don't share your premises.
Is it not about winning, so much as winning for the traditional powers?
Bernie is an outsider who might upset a nice fat apple cart.
Hillary can be depended upon to continue the status quo.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

They might be quite rational, but just don't share your premises.
Is it not about winning, so much as winning for the traditional powers?
Bernie is an outsider who might upset a nice fat apple cart.
Hillary can be depended upon to continue the status quo.

Hillary is very status quo, but she's disenfranchising potential Dem voters. Hillary and Trump being on the ballot will be a scattered mess of voters, but with Sanders they will have a far greater chance of winning. And because one more dead Supreme Court Justice would swing the Court strongly to the left if the Dems win the next election. Sanders won't be able to disrupt the powers that be too much, and because there is potentially a far greater victory down the road, with the prize being the Supreme Court, something above the House and Senate, the stakes are just too high to not go with what is most likely to win. For the establishment, it's a small price to pay for a larger prize.

 

[Underhill]

Latest poll has Bernie leading Hillary by 3 point nationwide
. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...rails-sanders-by-three-points-nationally.html

Too little too late.

 

[idav]

Latest poll has Bernie leading Hillary by 3 point nationwide
. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...rails-sanders-by-three-points-nationally.html

It says a lot when Sanders leads Trump in delegates.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Too little too late.

It says a lot when Sanders leads Trump in delegates.

A couple of suggestions ...

• Note that the OP is dated February 18th, i.e., nearly three months ago.
  
• Note that it is a FoxNews poll.
  
• Note that the Thursday, May 5th, Pew Research poll has Clinton +12 verses Sanders. Similar results are available here.
  
• Note that the Republican Party Convention involves 2,472 delegates; the Democratic Party Convention involves 4,765 delegates. That a Democratic Party candidate has more delegates than a Republican Party candidate 'says' nothing.

 

[Underhill]

A couple of suggestions ...

• Note that the OP is dated February 18th, i.e., nearly three months ago.
  
• Note that it is a FoxNews poll.
  
• Note that the Thursday, May 5th, Pew Research poll has Clinton +12 verses Sanders. Similar results are available here.
  
• Note that the Republican Party Convention involves 2,472 delegates; the Democratic Party Convention involves 4,765 delegates. That a Democratic Party candidate has more delegates than a Republican Party candidate 'says' nothing.

From what I have seen Clinton may be leading in the numbers of those voting for her, but virtually everyone I know prefers Sanders. They vote for Clinton because, for some reason unknown to me, they think she will have a better chance against Trump.

If anything I think the opposite is true.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

From what I have seen Clinton may be leading in the numbers of those voting for her, ...