Sanders Leads Clintion In National Poll

[idav]

A couple of suggestions ...

• Note that the OP is dated February 18th, i.e., nearly three months ago.
  
• Note that it is a FoxNews poll.
  
• Note that the Thursday, May 5th, Pew Research poll has Clinton +12 verses Sanders. Similar results are available here.
  
• Note that the Republican Party Convention involves 2,472 delegates; the Democratic Party Convention involves 4,765 delegates. That a Democratic Party candidate has more delegates than a Republican Party candidate 'says' nothing.

Yeah saw the date on that. All noted.

 

[esmith]

It says a lot when Sanders leads Trump in delegates.

Guess you don't understand that the Democraps have more delegates than the Republicans.
Democrats 4765
Republicans 2472
Bernie has 1473 which is 32.3 % (Shillry has 2240 or 47%) includes superdelegates
Trump has 1134 or 45.9%

 

[tytlyf]

Only 1 party is ignoring the will of the voters. See what republicans are doing in Colorado and other states? They don't care about the voters, the establishment controls the party. No one in the middle class has any business voting republican.

 

[esmith]

Only 1 party is ignoring the will of the voters. See what republicans are doing in Colorado and other states? They don't care about the voters, the establishment controls the party. No one in the middle class has any business voting republican.

How about your Deomocraps super-delegates? That's the will of your people?

 

[metis]

It's always possible that a great many of those super-delegates could change their mind as so many did in 2008.

BTW, I think both parties are going to revisit their own primary system before 2020, and I think it's likely that both will be making some changes, as I think they probably should.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

BTW, I think both parties are going to revisit their own primary system before 2020, and I think it's likely that both will be making some changes, as I think they probably should.

I do see some shedding going on in the Democrats, as Sanders has proven there is much support for his views, which is the way the Democrats have been going for awhile now. I see them trying to shed some of the corporate influence as support for Democratic Socialism increases, and many of the "blue dog" democrats switch sides to the Republicans, who I see have a total schism in the near future, with the social Conservatives having their own group (which I suspect will probably retain the name "Republican" and GOP), and many Republicans having seen the success of Trump without the Religious fervor will split into a fiscal Conservative group (which I suspect will the Libertarian party, especially since some of the big shots gunning for political power are already big names if a few anti-Tax/ant-regulation Libertarian circles).

 

[esmith]

I do see some shedding going on in the Democrats, as Sanders has proven there is much support for his views, which is the way the Democrats have been going for awhile now. I see them trying to shed some of the corporate influence as support for Democratic Socialism increases, and many of the "blue dog" democrats switch sides to the Republicans, who I see have a total schism in the near future, with the social Conservatives having their own group (which I suspect will probably retain the name "Republican" and GOP), and many Republicans having seen the success of Trump without the Religious fervor will split into a fiscal Conservative group (which I suspect will the Libertarian party, especially since some of the big shots gunning for political power are already big names if a few anti-Tax/ant-regulation Libertarian circles).

Nice to have dreams, but dreams very rarely come true.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Nice to have dreams, but dreams very rarely come true.

"Whether you think you can or you think you can't -- you're probably right." -- Henry Ford

 

[metis]

I do see some shedding going on in the Democrats, as Sanders has proven there is much support for his views, which is the way the Democrats have been going for awhile now. I see them trying to shed some of the corporate influence as support for Democratic Socialism increases, and many of the "blue dog" democrats switch sides to the Republicans, who I see have a total schism in the near future, with the social Conservatives having their own group (which I suspect will probably retain the name "Republican" and GOP), and many Republicans having seen the success of Trump without the Religious fervor will split into a fiscal Conservative group (which I suspect will the Libertarian party, especially since some of the big shots gunning for political power are already big names if a few anti-Tax/ant-regulation Libertarian circles).

And what's sorta funny is that Trump trumped the conservatives in the party and not just the moderates, and Trump sure in heck ain't a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. On top of that, he's severely truth-challenged, according to Politifact with a 76% lie rate, if my memory is correct, which begs the question how can any serious Pub vote for a guy who's neither conservative nor can they tell even what he may stand for? Might as well just roll the dice at the local casino because they most assuredly would give you far better odds.

Hillary may be flawed, but at least one can have a clue what she stands for. My one hope is that she picks Bernie as her VP, and he is so adamant that Trump cannot be allowed to become the P that he has dropped some hints that he might accept, thus improving chances that the Dems will get more of the young and enthusiastic vote. Hillary is "old news", and that's just one of her problems, so Bernie can help her with that.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Hillary may be flawed, but at least one can have a clue what she stands for. My one hope is that she picks Bernie as her VP, ...

It will never happen. Unless forced, Hillary will not do anything that compromises her her ability to tact to the right.

 

[metis]

It will never happen. Unless forced, Hillary will not do anything that compromises her her ability to tact to the right.

But it could be forced if polls show she's likely to lose without him.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

But it could be forced if polls show she's likely to lose without him.

I believe that Sanders is far too smart and far too committed to accept the VP.

 

[metis]

I believe that Sanders is far too smart and far too committed to accept the VP.

Maybe, but his fear of Trump becoming Pres may win out in the finale.