Satanic connection to Harry Potter? Pah!

[godconstantine]

I have read on a 'google' source today that someone has been telling a few white lies or trying to get some Wiccans into trouble. I am Wiccan myself, apprentice, but I have better knowledge than these bafoons. I have only just really joined this belief and many people I know have been saying that it is a copy-cat of Satanism. I know this is not true and I have given them a piece of my mind about it, for I am a Witch myself (male, though). This article showed me that most people who know about Wicca either start believing in it or hate it the moment it reaches their ears and knowledge. Harry Potter, in the past, has been dubbed the name Satanic because of the things involved inside these children pages, and some Christian parents are beginning to get a bit worried. They wouldn't like their children to grow up in a Christian family and be reading something relatively near a Satanic Bible. I know this all a load of rubbish from their backsides, but a new source has showed me that it has now been dubbed: Wiccan, for they believe Wicca with its Witchcraft to be partners with Satan himself. I am outraged. Please send me your comments on this stupid idea.

 

[FFH]

Emperor Constantine was instrumental in combining Pagan traditions with Christian traditions.

I see the Harry Potter series as having done the same thing. The author has taken Christian themes, and combined it with Wiccan traditions.

God would rather we be either "hot" or "cold". Either believe in God or Wicca, but do not combine the two. God does not like us to combine Christianity with Wiccan traditions. Either we do one or the other. Make a choice.


Matthew 6: 24

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."


3 Nephi 13: 24

"No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and Mammon."


Revelation 3: 15-19

15- I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16- So then because thou art likewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17- Because thou sayest, I am rich and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18- I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19- As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

20- Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21- To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

22- He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

 

[jeffrey]

Since you posted this in Wicca, it's not for Christians to debate. It's just a movie. Do a search and you will find a couple very long threads about this. And welcome to the forums!

 

[michel]

I tend to see it as making a mountain out of a molehill, but...............each one to his own.

 

[jeffrey]

I tend to see it as making a mountain out of a molehill, but...............each one to his own.

Agreed.

 

[Mike182]

I have read on a 'google' source today that someone has been telling a few white lies or trying to get some Wiccans into trouble. I am Wiccan myself, apprentice, but I have better knowledge than these bafoons. I have only just really joined this belief and many people I know have been saying that it is a copy-cat of Satanism. I know this is not true and I have given them a piece of my mind about it, for I am a Witch myself (male, though). This article showed me that most people who know about Wicca either start believing in it or hate it the moment it reaches their ears and knowledge. Harry Potter, in the past, has been dubbed the name Satanic because of the things involved inside these children pages, and some Christian parents are beginning to get a bit worried. They wouldn't like their children to grow up in a Christian family and be reading something relatively near a Satanic Bible. I know this all a load of rubbish from their backsides, but a new source has showed me that it has now been dubbed: Wiccan, for they believe Wicca with its Witchcraft to be partners with Satan himself. I am outraged. Please send me your comments on this stupid idea.

have you got a link to the site ........ twould be interesting to have a look, maybe send a few emails to the sites creators..........

 

[kreeden]

15- I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

Or Canadian ....

Sorry , couldn't help myself .

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Considering Harry Potter is a work of fiction (and many people obviously need to look that word up), and performing magick in Wicca or whatever path requires more than just a flick of a wand and a spoken phrase, it confirms, in my mind at least, alot of people "leap before they look." I feel forming an attack on something without thoroughly reseaching it should be a crime.

 

[Bishka]

Please, lets not get into this again!

 

[sapphire]

i like the harry potter movies, i find nothing indicating that it has anything to do with satanic or connection with wicca. it is lies made up, to draw attention. it is not the first time that critics from the publice media, would say something aganist an earth based religion.

 

[Nehustan]

I've not read these books, nor managed to watched the films (fell asleep in the first one) so I'm not really in a position to comment, but I'm going to anyway and anyone who has read/watched the books/films can correct my assumption if its wrong.

It would seem to me that these are fantasy books, but they would appear to draw on the arcana of the Western High Art, specifically the discipline of Alchemy. The reason I think this is from the titling of the books in the series. We have 'the philosopher's stone' with its well known Alchemical origin, then we have 'The goblet and the fire' which while the goblet/chalice is thought representative of the alchemical element of water, could be symbolic of a crucible? Then also we have the allusion of the phoenix, again the concept of fire, and transmutation inherent in alchemy. So it would appear to me that this series of books have more to do with Alchemy and the Art, than the Craft of Wicca.

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[SoyLeche]

Emperor Constantine was instrumental in combining Pagan traditions with Christian traditions.

I see the Harry Potter series as having done the same thing. The author has taken Christian themes, and combined it with Wiccan traditions.

God would rather we be either "hot" or "cold". Either believe in God or Wicca, but do not combine the two. God does not like us to combine Christianity with Wiccan traditions. Either we do one or the other. Make a choice.


Matthew 6: 24

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."


3 Nephi 13: 24

"No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and Mammon."


Revelation 3: 15-19

15- I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16- So then because thou art likewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17- Because thou sayest, I am rich and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18- I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19- As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

20- Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21- To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

22- He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

So, what does the Bible Code have to say about this?

 

[Buttons*]

..... can anyone say "fiction"?

the people who take harry potter seriously are the idiots, and the ones who feel threatened by a childrens book are even bigger idiots.

the end.

 

[Nehustan]

Mind you Buttons, fiction can be a very potent and subtle vehicle for fact. I'm not sure we can dismiss fiction as having no power. I'm thinking Geoge Orwell, very potent political fiction...some would venture closer to the truth than what we read in the press day to day.

 

[Buttons*]

Mind you Buttons, fiction can be a very potent and subtle vehicle for fact. I'm not sure we can dismiss fiction as having no power. I'm thinking Geoge Orwell, very potent political fiction...some would venture closer to the truth than what we read in the press day to day.

yes, i know, but harry potter?

that's giving that book WAY too much credit imo...

 

[Jaymes]

I'd like to note that this is in Discuss Individual Religions under the Wiccan section. If you are not Wiccan, you are limited to asking respectful questions. If you wish to debate something said here, make a new thread in the debate section.

 

[BUDDY]

Do Wiccans get upset when some parts of you religion are used in stories, and possibly taken out of context by the writters? Personally, I think it is ludicrous that people would make the assertions mentioned by the OP. I have heard the same thing in relation to many stories and things that are only imagination. Like it is a negative thing to have an imagination anymore. However, if things form your religion are taken out of context, I think it is important to be aware of it and not ignorant of the fact. What are the thoughts of someof you Wiccans?

 

[nutshell]

Harry Potter is a fictional work based in the fantasy genre. It is no different than Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Shannara, Dungeons and Dragons, or any other piece of literature.

It is no more real than the Da Vinci Code.

Wiccans,
I apologize for posting in your thread, but I guess I'm sensitive to these issues as I consider myself a writer and an artists.

Thanks,
-nutshell

 

[Feathers in Hair]

I feel so lonely that all the discussions are for Wiccans.

 

[Mike182]

I feel so lonely that all the discussions are for Wiccans.

hmmmm, well, not even all us wiccans (/ part wiccans) agree on what to believe, so im willing to bet that general pagans can post in wiccan threads as well, being as many wiccan beliefs cross over into general pagan beliefs anyway........