Scary Trump: Fails Basic Literacy Test; Way Of Speaking Is "Oddly Adolescent"

[Mindmaster]

For the tribalists, he's already judged to be the worst or greatest president in history.
But for the rest of us, we can only look at things which have actually happened where
he is the procuring cause. Only one year into his record, there's not much to go on.

Most of what Trump is saying is exactly policy positions I've heard Democrats previously embraced, but do nothing but give talk so I am aware of the irony as well.

I concur with the tribalism, and also reject it completely for what it is... a non-thinking position...

You can't argue against non-thought, just attempt to suggest that there are other interpretations.

 

[Revoltingest]

I concur with the tribalism, and also reject it completely for what it is... a non-thinking position...

It's thinking in the sense that based upon tribal
feelings, one rationalizes one's politics to comport.

 

[Revoltingest]

Absolutely for DACA, but it’s coming with strings attached, like funding a border wall- which Dems find plain stupid.

Hillary once favored the wall (aka barrier).
(I even posted a video of it the other day.)
Had she campaigned for it instead of Trump,
I speculate that the Dems would want it,
& the Pubs would oppose it. Tribalism.

 

[Phantasman]

I'm pretty sure you would criticize him for anything, lol.

I'm willing to forgive you for that though... It's hard to change.

Criticizing everything just makes no sense to me. It's llke saying you you refuse to see the good in anyone. That's just flat out blindness. Clinton, Bush, Obama had their good and bad. I like a lot of what Obama said in 2007, so I gave him a chance. When the talk changed by actions, He lost my vote for second term.

I'll do the same if what Trump said is different than what he ran on. So far, he's made a slight difference felt in my community because our paper that usually have had a handful of jobs for the last 10 years have more than half a page available in the past 2 months. Can't speak for the big cities though. We are a manufacturing small town (John Deere, Charbroil, etc.)

This year was the first SS raise I have had since the 5 years I have been on it. When I see things like this, you can't help to see who is pulling the strings to make this happen.

I just basically go with the flow when it is flowing. And no matter who's in office, if the flow is good, I keep it going (with my vote). It's a shame when people put the party they like above the system when it is gaining strength. The system is only as good as the people driving it, regardless of party.

 

[Phantasman]

This has nothing to do with capitalism vs. socialism. You can be either and still recognize when someone is feckless and inept. It's cute how people will bend over backwards in a desperate attempt to defend Trump's incompetence and lack of integrity; all because he happens to represent their corner of the political spectrum. Blind, uncritical hero worship of any politician, regardless of their party, is pathetic.

I could could care less about party. When I owned 2 businesses they weren't driven by party, but by ideas.

It's funny you discount Trumps competence. I'll agree with you when you show me how much more successful you are over him. Until then, I'll keep my own views of what incompetence is.

 

[Falvlun]

Hillary once favored the wall (aka barrier).
(I even posted a video of it the other day.)
Had she campaigned for it instead of Trump,
I speculate that the Dems would want it,
& the Pubs would oppose it. Tribalism.

I missed the video. But seeing as your previous examples left out pretty significant differences, I’ll assume this follows suit.

 

[Phantasman]

Little to do with Socialism, and I don't 'hate him'. I hate that his ideas should run rampant in society and be given a platform. I actually pity that the man will probably never be a good person in this lifetime. He appears to be a self-centered narcissist.

I don't judge people.

 

[Buddha Dharma]

I don't judge people.

Your statements about 45 in his defense aren't judgments?

In Buddhism we arguably should judge, in as far as determining a person's natural disposition and ability for good and bad- because if we understand people like Trump might not be able to help it, we can pity them.

The Stoics seem to have had a similar principle of cultivating pity and understanding for the ignorant. Marcus Aurelius says that when we arise in the morning tell ourselves we're going to meet ignorant, mean, so forth people- and it isn't that their fundamental nature is bad, but their disposition of mind is.

 

[Revoltingest]

I missed the video. But seeing as your previous examples left out pretty significant differences in details, I’ll assume this has similar issues.

Dems & Pubs each need to believe they're so different from each other.
Without even having seen the video, it is judged.

 

[Falvlun]

Dems & Pubs each need to believe they're so different from each other.
Without even having seen the video, it is judged.

No, silly revolt. You are judged, based upon your previous inept examples. You could post the video and prove me wrong.

 

[Revoltingest]

No, silly revolt. You are judged, based upon your previous inept examples. You could post the video and prove me wrong.

And the ad hominem is the last refuge of....

I don't intend to change your mind.
I just offer opinions & occasionally some evidence.
You'll do what you will.

 

[Phantasman]

Your statements about 45 in his defense aren't judgments?

In Buddhism we arguably should judge, in as far as determining a person's natural disposition and ability for good and bad- because if we understand people like Trump might not be able to help it, we can pity them.

The Stoics seem to have had a similar principle of cultivating pity and understanding for the ignorant. Marcus Aurelius says that when we arise in the morning tell ourselves we're going to meet ignorant, mean, so forth people- and it isn't that their fundamental nature is bad, but their disposition of mind is.

You may see it as judgement. I either agree with or disagree with the "actions" of people.

In Christianity we do not judge, If we did, what do we judge by? John 8:15

You are no better than the one you (may) judge.

 

[Buddha Dharma]

I thought you were a gnostic?

 

[Phantasman]

I thought you were a gnostic?

You would have to describe gnostic. It's a term concocted by the early catholics.

I am a seeker of spiritual knowledge of Christ (gnosis) by whatever name someone comes up with.

If that definition fits, then I am.

 

[Falvlun]

And the ad hominem is the last refuge of....

I don't intend to change your mind.
I just offer opinions & occasionally some evidence.
You'll do what you will.

Adding “And he doesn’t know what an ad hominem is” to my mental profile.”

 

[Revoltingest]

Adding “And he doesn’t know what an ad hominem is” to my mental profile.”

You're almost clever.
"ad hominem" without "argumentum" or "fallacy" is entirely applicable.

 

[Buddha Dharma]

I am a seeker of spiritual knowledge of Christ (gnosis) by whatever name someone comes up with

You don't identify as Doscetist, Sethian, or something like that, then?

 

[Mindmaster]

This year was the first SS raise I have had since the 5 years I have been on it. When I see things like this, you can't help to see who is pulling the strings to make this happen.

I just basically go with the flow when it is flowing. And no matter who's in office, if the flow is good, I keep it going (with my vote). It's a shame when people put the party they like above the system when it is gaining strength. The system is only as good as the people driving it, regardless of party.

Trump has been on point with making the government keep its promises, so it doesn't really surprise me. The Democrats as far less a party than a religion at this point, though they will accuse everyone else of being the real culprit. I just sit by waiting for their moment of self-realization, when even they stop buying their own bs. I never vote for a party, just a platform and the Dems only have the "adult-aged children" platform. I'm not interested.

 

[Phantasman]

Trump has been on point with making the government keep its promises, so it doesn't really surprise me. The Democrats as far less a party than a religion at this point, though they will accuse everyone else of being the real culprit. I just sit by waiting for their moment of self-realization, when even they stop buying their own bs. I never vote for a party, just a platform and the Dems only have the "adult-aged children" platform. I'm not interested.

There's people on both sides that have been there too long and need to go. Pelosi, Schiff and Schumer as well as McCain, Graham and McConnell. They have lost the ability to negotiate what's best for the country over partisan politics.

Just my view.

 

[Mindmaster]

There's people on both sides that have been there too long and need to go. Pelosi, Schiff and Schumer as well as McCain, Graham and McConnell. They have lost the ability to negotiate what's best for the country over partisan politics.

Just my view.

The RINOS and DINOS are really a separate political party pretending to be something else, I mean how dedicated to their parties are any of these people? They don't understand the only criteria we really have is that we expect them to do their work, most of the time they are just filling their pockets.