You should question the claims.
Were Israeli Babies Beheaded by Hamas Militants During Attack on Kfar Aza?
Here's what we know about the viral rumor spread by news media, the U.S president, and so on.
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Shadow Wolf
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That's something a bully would say. It's known laughing at someone to their face is rude. It's not exactly, really to someone's face here, but it kind of is and blaming rude behaviors on someone else is itself rude and mean.
I've seen the site that the Israeli government set up to show the video and photo evidence of the October 7th attacks. There weren't any beheaded babies, people chained together, babies in ovens or anything like that. What happened there was horrible enough without having to lie about it. Al Jazeera did a great video investigation of October 7th and it was clear that both sides killed many innocent people that day. I saw the Palestinian militants throw a grenade into a crowd of those ravers at the festival, so I'm not denying that Hamas (or other militants) killed unarmed people. We know they committed war crimes. So there's no denying that. But Israel was lying about the more outlandish stuff, to demonize their enemy.
This is a useful caution.
Let's not make more work for mods.
Or get the thread locked up.
We should stick to the issues, & try to avoid offense that's personal.
Of course, we should express views about the issues even if offensive.
That alone has some real adverse effects on equanimity.
Israel exerts much control over its press.
So part of the problem is that propaganda is
presented as news. And without opposition.
Why is Israel targeting Al Jazeera?
PM Benjamin Netanyahu says network will no longer broadcast from Israel because it threatens national security.
face sanctions for its coverage?
A UN envoy says there are 'reasonable grounds' to believe Hamas committed sexual violence on Oct. 7
UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. envoy focusing on sexual violence in conflict said in a new report Monday that there are “reasonable grounds” to believe Hamas committed rape, “sexualized torture,” and other cruel and inhumane treatment of women during its surprise attack in southern Israel on Oct. 7.
There are also “reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing,” said Pramila Patten, who visited Israel and the West Bank from Jan. 29 to Feb. 14 with a nine-member technical team.
Based on first-hand accounts of released hostages, she said the team “found clear and convincing information” that some women and children during their captivity were subjected to the same conflict-related sexual violence including rape and “sexualized torture.”
The report comes nearly five months after the Oct. 7 attacks, which left about 1,200 people dead and some 250 others taken hostage. Israel’s war against Hamas has since laid waste to the Gaza Strip, killing more than 30,000 people, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry. The U.N. says a quarter of Gaza’s 2.3 million people face starvation.
Hamas has rejected earlier allegations that its fighters committed sexual assault.
But you know better. What disgusting garbage.
When it comes to the rape allegations specifically, there's no evidence of widespread and systemic rape. The Israeli government has alleged that Hamas was using rape as a weapon of war. There really isn't any evidence of that, although random sexual assaults probably did occur.
Where did that bit of vitriol come from? Keep it to youself.
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Speaking of which....
even when by God's Chosen People.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
As I expected, you didn't actually deal with what I posted in terms of what would you do if attacked like on 10-7 with members of your family killed and some kidnapped? What about the estimated 150 miles of tunnels built by Hamas, some of which one can drive a box truck through? What about Hama's use of human shields in this conflict?
Secondly, are you aware of the "elephant in the room" that is supplying and encouraging Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc.? So, maybe deal with this as well in terms of what should be done in response.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Categorically false as observed when the party was under assault and also with testimony from an elderly woman just released a few months ago who observed numerous men raping a younger woman.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
What you are leaving out is the simple fact that these attacks are repeated basically every couple of years. Which country would allow this to happen to them and not respond and try and defeat the enemy? Is Hamas defeated, clearly not, so what would you have Israel do?
Link, please? We've heard a lot of "eyewitness testimony" that's turned out to be false, like the babies in ovens nonsense.
Not commit genocide.
Are you arguing that Israel's genocidal
response is appropriate?
Have you considered that Israel is only
setting the stage for further violent
retaliation & resistance?
Is this what your Prince Of Peace would
want your to support?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'm not doing anything to provoke my neighbor to attack. But if I claimed their garage, amd evicted the homeowner's mom who lives in it, yeah it might just start a fight.
Amd remember, right now its the IDF is the one killing innocent people and their families and has been for several months. Over 34,000 amd rising compared to about 1200 in one attack that was considered massive, shocking and unprecedented. But it's been done since then. Israel is still at it and not one step closer to achieving their publicly stated goal.
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I'm not going to do your homework as it was on at least a couple of news channels several weeks ago. So, maybe google it.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
You clearly have no clue what genocide really is and why it cannot be applied here.
Here, maybe do some actual reading: Genocide - Wikipedia
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
You simply did not answer my questions but just walked around it as you did in your previous post.I'm not doing anything to provoke my neighbor to attack. But if I claimed their garage, amd evicted the homeowner's mom who lives in it, yeah it might just start a fight.
Amd remember, right now its the IDF is the one killing innocent people and their families and has been for several months. Over 34,000 amd rising compared to about 1200 in one attack that was considered massive, shocking and unprecedented. But it's been done since then. Israel is still at it and not one step closer to achieving their publicly stated goal.
Your claim makes it your job to support it....if you can.
Israel's genocide of Palestinians meets
the 1948 UN definition. This occurred
fully when Israel stated plans to send
them all to Africa.
Is it possible for you to see anything
Israel has done wrong? Have you any
concern for the Palestinians?