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Science can say nothing about existence of God

psychoslice

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That which is the source of your temporary ego consciousness and being..
Yes this is what I call the Source, the mind body isn't who we truly are, the ego doesn't exists, its nothing more than an illusion, so in truth that which Is, isn't the ego, the ego is nothing more than a shadow of what IS. The Source is not temporary, its always there, what is temporary is the mind body organism, its there and gone, just like a wave on the ocean.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

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It's what it is, and nothing else.
Tautologies are rarely informative, seldom helpful, and in this case pointless. A=A doesn't do help us understand A or anything else. You could have, for example, commented on the relationship to posts in this thread and logical positivism, rather than offering a tautology as a response.
 
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psychoslice

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Tautologies are rarely informative, seldom helpful, and in this case pointless. A=A doesn't do help us understand A or anything else. You could have, for example, commented on the relationship to posts in this thread and logical positivism, rather than offering a tautology as a response.
Just because you don't have any understand of what is been said here, doesn't mean anything to anyone, if you don't have anything that is worth while then why the hell are you here, what have you to offer that has already been shared here, come on give it to me.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

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Just because you don't have any understand of what is been said here, doesn't mean anything to anyone
Well, it certainly doesn't mean a lot to me.

if you don't have anything that is worthwhile then why the hell are you here
Boredom, usually.
what have you to offer that has already been shared here
In a thread about what the sciences can say, I have the advantage of being a scientist.
come on give it to me.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

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Well Ernestine, this is also a religious topic, not just science, so don't be so greedy.
I don't have anything to offer as a religious individual, because I'm not one. However, it hardly seems logical or practical to inquire what the sciences have to offer and require that only non-scientists speak to this (or that only religious scientists do). Also, as the OP asks about God (not religion or even religions which have gods, but "G"od), it isn't really a religious topic. It concerns what the sciences have to say about one aspect of a tiny, tiny minority of religions so different from religions in general that they didn't exist until a fairly recently in human history.
 

psychoslice

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I don't have anything to offer as a religious individual, because I'm not one. However, it hardly seems logical or practical to inquire what the sciences have to offer and require that only non-scientists speak to this (or that only religious scientists do). Also, as the OP asks about God (not religion or even religions which have gods, but "G"od), it isn't really a religious topic. It concerns what the sciences have to say about one aspect of a tiny, tiny minority of religions so different from religions in general that they didn't exist until a fairly recently in human history.
There you are, you had your say, let other also have theirs, this world is more than just science, in case you didn't know.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

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Who's counting ?.
Apparently you.
There you are, you had your say, let other also have theirs
If I've had my say, you've had many more times that. If you are going to accuse me of not letting others have their say, you may wish to
1) Made sure you haven't already posted many more times than I here
2) Made sure you aren't the one telling another (who has said less than you) that they should let other speak
 

Desert Snake

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The existence of Deity==science could say something about it.
science is limited==science can't speak of deity
 

psychoslice

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Apparently you.

If I've had my say, you've had many more times that. If you are going to accuse me of not letting others have their say, you may wish to
1) Made sure you haven't already posted many more times than I here
2) Made sure you aren't the one telling another (who has said less than you) that they should let other speak
Don't twist this all around, others can speak whenever they want, they don't need you as their saviour.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

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The existence of Deity==science could say something about it.
science is limited==science can't speak of deity
I'm all for the use of formal systems (even semi-formal or pseudo-formal systems) in argumentation/debate/discussion. But I have no idea what on earth this could mean other than that either A=A or A/ =A
 

LegionOnomaMoi

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Don't twist this all around, others can speak whenever they want, they don't need you as their saviour.
I didn't claim to be anybody's savoir. I am just one of those "others" who (according to you) "can speak whenever they want", but apparently (according to you) shouldn't speak when you don't want me to.
 

psychoslice

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I didn't claim to be anybody's savoir. I am just one of those "others" who (according to you) "can speak whenever they want", but apparently (according to you) shouldn't speak when you don't want me to.
Don't play the old victim game with me, you do whatever you want to do, and let others do what they want.......simple.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

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The existence of Deity==science could say something about it.
Given the proposition P which asserts "science can say something about the existence of [a] deity", then according to the above science can say something about the existence of [a] deity.
But according to the following:
science is limited==science can't speak of deity
Science can't do what the former claim asserted it can. What is the relation between the claims? Or, put differently, what is the point of the post?
 

LegionOnomaMoi

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Don't play the old victim game with me
I'm not. It's called logic. You asked me to let others speak after having said more than I whilst offering no basis for saying I haven't let others speak (particularly in light of the fact that you have limited this thread far more than I have given that you have made far more posts which have determined its direction). I objected to having done so, given what you've posted here and have continued to post.
let others do what they want.......simple.
Unlike you, I haven't even suggested they do otherwise.
 
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