Science IS religion

[Bob the Unbeliever]

That is not usually part of origin science is it!? Now if you want to talk about the far universe and gravity there and what you think it does..or exactly what gravity was like in Noah's day..or what it will be like on earth after Jesus returns to rule...maybe we could talk!

Noah never existed, and the entire world was never flooded.

Physics alone proves this out, but there are literally 100's of single points of failure in the Noah Legend, that make it impossible.

Giant oil tankers full of crude cannot suddenly leap into the air and dance the ballet.

THAT is the level of MAGIC NEEDED, to make Noah a real thing.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I saw where jane goodall said she knows factually scientifically big foot is not real, but she really wants to believe.

I had a day dream. And in that dream i was in line, at a jane goodall conference to get a picture signed.

When it was my turn i said to jane" a friend of mine asked me to say hi. He says he has seen bigfoot, and he showed me a picture of him with bigfoot."
I then ask" jane can you verify bigfoot in the picture his name is david sitting next to what he claims is big foot."

Here is the pic of david graybeard with what he calls bigfoot. I dont believe i just experience and pass it on. No comentary at all. Apparently Jane has large feet.
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Interesting. I have not considered or even been aware of the size of her feet. She had nice legs from all the pictures I have seen though.

I have a seen a few pictures reported to be of Bigfoot and in several of them there appears to be a person that looks much like Ivanka that is trying to insinuate her presence on Bigfoot. I do not want to believe that.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Believe in little green men all you like, and call it football if you like! Ha.

Both are far more likely than pretty much anything from a creationist's bible...

Seriously.

 

[dad]

Gravity is everywhere

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How much gravity may be involves would be hard to say in deep space unless the distances/sizes of objects affecting things with gravity were known..no?

from the beginning,

You have no idea what the beginning was. We assume you are talking about inside your head according to origin of the universe fables/theories.

cant get more original than that, without it this universe would just be a giant cloud of hydrogen.

Thankfully God has the universe set up right then.

To prove it is everywhere just jump up into the air and see the effect of gravity so what has the far universe to do with the price of fish?

Try to focus on the context here. We were talking about the precise degree of gravity on earth in Noah's day. You cannot jump up then and there can you?

Did noah actually exist?

Did George Bush?

For that matter did JC exist as depicted in the bible?

Yes.

Word is he was the ******* son of a Roman soldier (yes i have seen his dads gravestone) and something of an anarchist opposing the legitimate rule of the land.

Not sure why the word from hell would matter or be inserted into a science forum?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Thanks for admitting that you can't prove anything and that the strongest belief in the fable arsenal is the theory of evolution that has you being a relative of cockroaches!


If you are talking about the theory of evolution of life on earth...no. There is actually NO evidence whatsoever. Not one iota. I kid you not. It is religion.

I cannot discard a fable/theory that I never accepted.

Wrecking idols in ancient Israel did not cause all idolatry to stop either. The wrath of God to come in the tribulation/end period will not cause men to stop their blasphemies either. Why would I expect the good ship EVO to be abandoned with every repair needed?


The theories of language are origin science religion. It started at Babel.

Hence, why they branched it off as a separate science, to avoid the embarrassment of being totally exposed as NOT knowing what they are talking about!
Or that the universe came from turtle poop?
?? What I demand? What I hope and expect for all dark lying fables is that they wither away and die to be remembered no more, unless as some eternal memorial to how low fallen man can sink in abject foolishness!

A modestly amusing and completely erroneous and trivial response that largely says that I am vermin as the sole argument for your denial of science. I am less disturbed by the biological relationship that humans have with cockroaches than I am with the one that exist between myself and certain people.

 

[dad]

-- we ARE related to flatworms, using DNA analysis.

False. Your religion believes we are. You do not know about what DNA was like in Adam's day.

At least you admit you actually think flatworms are your relatives though!

You know about DNA? Right? The molecule that 100% proved all creationism wrong? In one fell swoop?

You would need to articulate the fantasies in your head to add any meaning to your silly statements.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Gravity is everywhere, from the beginning, cant get more original than that, without it this universe would just be a giant cloud of hydrogen.
To prove it is everywhere just jump up into the air and see the effect of gravity so what has the far universe to do with the price of fish?

Did noah actually exist?

For that matter did JC exist as depicted in the bible? Word is he was the ******* son of a Roman soldier (yes i have seen his dads gravestone) and something of an anarchist opposing the legitimate rule of the land.

And still gravity remains constant

This is another thread where a creationist spends less time supporting his claims and most of the time posting a lot of the usual nonsense and vitriol.

I cannot say that we were not warned.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

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Thankfully God has the universe set up right then.

Citation needed. Apparently, by your low "standards", "right" includes 4 of 5 fertilized human ova get aborted naturally, parasitic worms entire life cycle by eating the eyeballs of little kids, bone cancer in children, malaria, HIV, endless drought, flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes and death-dealing volcanic explosions.

And "made it right" also includes systematic abuse of children by "God's Chosen Leaders of Men" in pretty much all religions, everywhere on Earth.

And "made it right" includes most of the planet having cultures where women and children are merely chattel, to be abused, killed or treated as disposable property, at the whim of God-Fearing men.

And "made it right" includes billions of pieces of EVIDENCE which-- if you are correct-- MAKES YOUR GOD THE BIGGEST LIAR OF THEM ALL.

JUST for the dinosaur bones alone. But ALSO for the DNA. Especially, the DNA...

 

[dad]

Noah never existed,

A claim. OK. So support your claim!

and the entire world was never flooded.

Proof?

Physics alone proves this out, but there are literally 100's of single points of failure in the Noah Legend, that make it impossible.

Physics we know is likely a post flood thing. Not sure how you mistakenly thought it helped your baseless doubts and claims?

Giant oil tankers full of crude cannot suddenly leap into the air and dance the ballet.

True...so this means what...your religion is true?

THAT is the level of MAGIC NEEDED, to make Noah a real thing.

Nice story. I do not recall that happening in the record though. Gong.

 

[Darkstorn]

False. Your religion believes we are. You do not know about what DNA was like in Adam's day.

At least you admit you actually think flatworms are your relatives though!
You would need to articulate the fantasies in your head to add any meaning to your silly statements.

Last-thursdayism is really meh. Basically we can't know anything because there's a god fabricating all evidence to show faulty data to trick unbelievers.

I can't disprove that the universe began last Thursday. But it's also a cop-out of an answer.

 

[dad]

A modestly amusing and completely erroneous and trivial response that largely says that I am vermin as the sole argument for your denial of science. I am less disturbed by the biological relationship that humans have with cockroaches than I am with the one that exist between myself and certain people.

Obviously your fable rests well in your mind. The DNA connection cited however does not hold water.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

False. Your religion believes we are. You do not know about what DNA was like in Adam's day..

Nope. TRUE. Humans share more DNA sequences with flat worms, than we do with carrots. BUT WE DO SHARE SOME WITH CARROTS TOO.

The fact you are CLUELESS about this? Says a great deal-- none of it good...

By the way? Adam never existed. We know from DNA analysis humans never started from a single couple, 4000+ years back as your silly bible fiction would have us believe.

At least you admit you actually think flatworms are your relatives though!.

I'd rather be related to a flatworm, than -- what are quite amazing in their own way-- did you know? You can teach a flat worm some simple task that it responds to-- then? Carefully grind him up, and feed him to a relative-- and? The relative ALSO KNOWS THE TRICK.

Amazing!

Flatworms demonstrate they are MORE CAPABLE OF LEARNING THAN A CREATIONIST IS!

Who knew? (well-- just about everybody, actually.... )

 

[Subduction Zone]

Obviously your fable rests well in your mind. The DNA connection cited however does not hold water.

Denial is not a refutation. Try again.

 

[dad]

Last-thursdayism is really meh. Basically we can't know anything because there's a god fabricating all evidence to show faulty data to trick unbelievers.

I can't disprove that the universe began last Thursday. But it's also a cop-out of an answer.

We get it, anything that disagrees with your religion of being related to cockroaches and having all the galaxies spring forth from a small hot soup is 'last thursdayism' or spagetti monsterism.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Obviously your fable rests well in your mind. The DNA connection cited however does not hold water.

Correct! DNA will dissolve in water! It cannot **hold** water at all.

And here I thought you less capable of learning than a flat worm!

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Obviously your fable rests well in your mind. The DNA connection cited however does not hold water.

1) https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/
2) Lines of evidence: The science of evolution
3) http://io9.gizmodo.com/8-scientific-discoveries-that-prove-evolution-is-real-1729902558
4) Human Evolution Evidence
5) How Did Multicellular Life Evolve? - Astrobiology Magazine
6) TalkOrigins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution Controversy
7) Evolution
8) 101 Reasons Why Evolution is True | ideonexus.com
9) http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence
10) http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/…/topicbrowse2.php…
11) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent
12) http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0308_060308_evolution.html
13) http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/home.php
14) http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_01

 

[Dan From Smithville]

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You first. I have not seen even one argument from you, that is anything other than name-calling and belittling.

But there you go! The stock-and-trade of ALL creationists the world over. All hat, No cattle.

I thought that was his topic for this thread. Am I wrong? I came here expecting to be called names and belittled and so far, that is what I have gotten.

That really isn't true. I was just being satirical. About the first part anyway. I am not here to engage the author of this thread. There is no point to waste time with more than the one response I did make. I am more interested in what others posting to this thread have to say. Even those I have responded to that have expressed opposing views to science have been pleasant in how they have articulated those views. I am not expecting that from the original author and my expectations are being met as I write this.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

We get it, anything that disagrees with your religion of being related to cockroaches and having all the galaxies spring forth from a small hot soup is 'last thursdayism' or spagetti monsterism.

***wooosh***

That is the sound of his point, flying just over your head.

Exactly as fossils tossed in your general direction do.

I was wrong about you being capable of learning....

*sigh*

 

[dad]

Nope. TRUE. Humans share more DNA sequences with flat worms, than we do with carrots. BUT WE DO SHARE SOME WITH CARROTS TOO.

Therefore our relatives are those shared with carrots!? Ha. An airplane may share a bolt with a car, does this make the plane related? What's up doc?

By the way? Adam never existed. We know from DNA analysis humans never started from a single couple, 4000+ years back as your silly bible fiction would have us believe.

Now the fun part.

Show the basis for your dates (lurkers..it will be a belief that nature and laws were always the same and he will be unable to prove that)

Secondly, show that DNA as we know it for man existed say, more than 70 million years ago? ( My current guess as to the approx date of the flood is around the KT layer era)


Prepare for defeat.

 

[David T]

Interesting. I have not considered or even been aware of the size of her feet. She had nice legs from all the pictures I have seen though.

I have a seen a few pictures reported to be of Bigfoot and in several of them there appears to be a person that looks much like Ivanka that is trying to insinuate her presence on Bigfoot. I do not want to believe that.

Now see with that mind you may have great potential! Reach that potential and maybe belief will no longer be a reasonable word. Might get replaced with i experience. The Meat and potatoes of the mystics and the arts! I believe, is the cotton candy of the audience. Be wierd.