Science IS religion

[Audie]

Nope. TRUE. Humans share more DNA sequences with flat worms, than we do with carrots. BUT WE DO SHARE SOME WITH CARROTS TOO.

The fact you are CLUELESS about this? Says a great deal-- none of it good...

By the way? Adam never existed. We know from DNA analysis humans never started from a single couple, 4000+ years back as your silly bible fiction would have us believe.



I'd rather be related to a flatworm, than -- what are quite amazing in their own way-- did you know? You can teach a flat worm some simple task that it responds to-- then? Carefully grind him up, and feed him to a relative-- and? The relative ALSO KNOWS THE TRICK.

Amazing!

Flatworms demonstrate they are MORE CAPABLE OF LEARNING THAN A CREATIONIST IS!

Who knew? (well-- just about everybody, actually.... )

Now Flattie, repeat after me...
"Origin of life not part of ToE"

Uncross your eyes when you get it!

Flattie uncrosses! He got it!

Now for a bold step into the unknown!

We grind up poor lil Flattie and feed him to...
a Creationist!

 

[David T]

***wooosh***

That is the sound of his point, flying just over your head.

Exactly as fossils tossed in your general direction do.

I was wrong about you being capable of learning....

*sigh*

I am a fossil ask me anything. I am 64 years old nothing existed before me!!! Lol.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I thought that was his topic for this thread. Am I wrong? I came here expecting to be called names and belittled and so far, that is what I have gotten.

That really isn't true. I was just being satirical. About the first part anyway. I am not here to engage the author of this thread. There is no point to waste time with more than the one response I did make. I am more interested in what others posting to this thread have to say. Even those I have responded to that have expressed opposing views to science have been pleasant in how they have articulated those views. I am not expecting that from the original author and my expectations are being met as I write this.

I was in a fanciful mood, today. Feeling good, after a really nice lunch of some of the best dinosaur meat I've had in quite some time! At least a couple of weeks-- the eatery was off during the week of the 4th, vacations.

Mmmmmm.... I had it boneless, deep fried, with some home made french fries on the side. And? White Gravy.

I love, love boneless deep-fried dinosaur parts with some Southern White Gravy on the side.

And tea. Iced, of course, as it's Summertime in the City. Since it was also breakfast for me? (being my day off) I put in two packets of sugar-- unusual for me, but there was about 20 ounces of tea/ice, so there was just the barest hint of sweetness. And sugar, being a polar ionic compound? Went into that mostly water solution quite nicely-- two level teaspoons I think is the English Measure. A few grams, at most.

Damn. Writing that up, just now? Was kind of like re-living the meal.

mmmmmm..... warm, dead dinosaur parts....





* edit. I was told it was dead dinosaur, but to be sure, I never saw the feathers, and I never heard it cluck. So I may have been lied to... but I've been assured it was a direct descendant of the venerable T-Rex of some note.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I am a fossil ask me anything. I am 64 years old nothing existed before me!!! Lol.

Damn, ya old codger! Yew youngsters... Us 63 year old's better watch out!

 

[dad]

1) https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/
2) Lines of evidence: The science of evolution
3) http://io9.gizmodo.com/8-scientific-discoveries-that-prove-evolution-is-real-1729902558
4) Human Evolution Evidence
5) How Did Multicellular Life Evolve? - Astrobiology Magazine
6) TalkOrigins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution Controversy
7) Evolution
8) 101 Reasons Why Evolution is True | ideonexus.com
9) Human Evolution Evidence
10) http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/…/topicbrowse2.php…
11) Evidence of common descent - Wikipedia
12) http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0308_060308_evolution.html
13) Understanding Evolution
14) Welcome to Evolution 101!

Looking at your first link I did not see anything about how DNA was in the far past nature?

You think that a flatworm having some similar DNA means we are related, correct?

 

[dad]

1) https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/
2) Lines of evidence: The science of evolution
3) http://io9.gizmodo.com/8-scientific-discoveries-that-prove-evolution-is-real-1729902558
4) Human Evolution Evidence
5) How Did Multicellular Life Evolve? - Astrobiology Magazine
6) TalkOrigins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution Controversy
7) Evolution
8) 101 Reasons Why Evolution is True | ideonexus.com
9) Human Evolution Evidence
10) http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/…/topicbrowse2.php…
11) Evidence of common descent - Wikipedia
12) http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0308_060308_evolution.html
13) Understanding Evolution
14) Welcome to Evolution 101!

Looking at your first link I did not see anything about how DNA was in the far past nature?

You think that a flatworm having some similar DNA means we are related, correct?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It feels fine-- cockroaches are some of the most amazing critters on the planet. They are so incredibly adapted to the role they exist in, that there is nothing even close to knocking them out of that niche.

When humans have killed each other, fighting over what happens to us when we die, and which fictional hell we are all going to?

Cockroaches will still be there, doing what they do best-- mating and reproducing.

The truth is? I'd rather be related to a cockroach, than a creationist any day-- a cockroach is honest in what the roach does. In direct contrast to...

Cockroaches are a highly successful group of hemimetabolous insects with a lineage that dates back 350 million years. When I first learned insect systematics, cockroaches and termites were considered to belong to separate orders, but I see that recent discovery of genetic and molecular evidence has lead to a consolidation of those two orders. It is truly amazing the discoveries we keep making about the natural world and the species that live in it.

I too think they will be here long after we have gone. If the choice came down to cockroaches and certain people, I would choose cockroaches based on some of the same criteria you mention.

 

[ChristineM]

,
How much gravity may be involves would be hard to say in deep space unless the distances/sizes of objects affecting things with gravity were known..no?
You have no idea what the beginning was. We assume you are talking about inside your head according to origin of the universe fables/theories.



Thankfully God has the universe set up right then.
Try to focus on the context here. We were talking about the precise degree of gravity on earth in Noah's day. You cannot jump up then and there can you?

Did George Bush?
Yes.

Not sure why the word from hell would matter or be inserted into a science forum?

Please keep up, the strength of gravity has been known for over 200 years know at 6.67408 × 10-11 m3 kg-1 s-2

So you say you dont know how the universe started so god magic... I actually know 28 theories of how the universe stared and none include god dun it wiv god magik. So i am guessing i actually have more idea than you do.

So you have evidence of god magic in the same way that i can provide evidence of gravity and evolution? I would love to see it.

There is physical evidence that both george bushes lived, there is no evidence of noah. Perhaps you chose a poor example.

RF censorship, i will say that ******** was another, more common word for illegitimate so i will reprint the sentence so it hopefully renders correctly

Word is he was the illegitimate son of a Roman soldier (yes i have seen his dads gravestone) and something of an anarchist opposing the legitimate rule of the land.​

 

[exchemist]

Lurkers...look at his shrill little empty posts and tell me what anyone could possibly be running from?

In your case? Human knowledge that contradicts a particularly stupid interpretation of the bible.

 

[David T]

Both are far more likely than pretty much anything from a creationist's bible...

Seriously.

Creationists annoy me. Too many folks confuse the bible with them and they like that hoax. They are the worst. Like crazy people creating a crop circle and like a squirrel forget they created it completely self decieved, convinced aliens did it. Like egyptians on camels proclaiming the pryamids were built by aliens.. Wait thats some of us.

 

[dad]

Cockroaches are a highly successful group of hemimetabolous insects with a lineage that dates back 350 million years.

Show us how the date is supported.

I too think they will be here long after we have gone.

Bible prophesy says that the curse will be removed and all those deadly filthy dangerous things we now see will be no more. All will be restored to original perfection.

 

[dad]

In your case? Human knowledge that contradicts a particularly stupid interpretation of the bible.

Do not conflate knowledge with your belief set and fables.

 

[ChristineM]

This is another thread where a creationist spends less time supporting his claims and most of the time posting a lot of the usual nonsense and vitriol.

I cannot say that we were not warned.

Yes, it appears @dad is known across several forums for his "la, la, la, la, i can't hear you" approach to reality but you must admit, its fun for a while

 

[dad]

Creationists annoy me. Too many folks confuse the bible with them and they like that hoax.

The bible does not teach creation! Ha.

They are the worst. Like crazy people creating a crop circle and like a squirrel forget they created it completely self decieved,

We love you too.

convinced aliens did it. Like egyptians on camels proclaiming the pryamids were built by aliens.. Wait thats some of us.

Strawman. Creation believers think no such thing.

 

[ChristineM]

1) https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/
2) Lines of evidence: The science of evolution
3) http://io9.gizmodo.com/8-scientific-discoveries-that-prove-evolution-is-real-1729902558
4) Human Evolution Evidence
5) How Did Multicellular Life Evolve? - Astrobiology Magazine
6) TalkOrigins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution Controversy
7) Evolution
8) 101 Reasons Why Evolution is True | ideonexus.com
9) Human Evolution Evidence
10) http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/…/topicbrowse2.php…
11) Evidence of common descent - Wikipedia
12) http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0308_060308_evolution.html
13) Understanding Evolution
14) Welcome to Evolution 101!

Good to see that list of urls sgain. But it will have absolutely no effect on deliberate ignorance.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Do not conflate knowledge with your belief set and fables.

Projection.

Again, I will help you to learn. Anyone here that you ask politely will help you to learn. Or are you still using the Ostrich Defense?

Ostriches really do not do that. If they did there would be no ostriches today. And of course the use of the ostrich defense is why there are fewer and fewer creationists every year.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Cockroaches are a highly successful group of hemimetabolous insects with a lineage that dates back 350 million years. When I first learned insect systematics, cockroaches and termites were considered to belong to separate orders, but I see that recent discovery of genetic and molecular evidence has lead to a consolidation of those two orders. It is truly amazing the discoveries we keep making about the natural world and the species that live in it.

I too think they will be here long after we have gone. If the choice came down to cockroaches and certain people, I would choose cockroaches based on some of the same criteria you mention.

As much as individual roaches disgust me, whenever I encounter one in an unexpected way?

I have always admired how well adapted they are.

A number of years back, I read most of a book which chronicled several species' success, that have "hooked a ride" on the "human train of existence".

The lowly potato, which prior to humans domesticating this plucky plant, was rather uncommon. But by happenstance, this thing's "storage shelter for the winter" happens to contain nearly a complete balanced nutrient mix, for humans (if you eat the skin-- important trace elements in there).

The marijuana plant is another. Again, seemingly by happy accident, it has two things going for it-- a very fibrous stem, which is quite useful to humans for making textiles, and one of it's principle chemicals is so similar to a behavioral hormone humans produce in their own brains, that it can substitute for that same chemical. It has been a quite successful partnership, just going by the numbers.

The dog, and that's pretty obvious.

And finally? The cockroach--which has evolved a wee bit, to really thrive among human garbage. Just going by the total numbers, it's been estimated there are at least several hundred roaches per person on earth. At least. Roaches do not seem to be bothered by human destruction of other species' habitat, having moved right into our cities and towns, literally right under our feet. Only Rattus Rattus, is doing as well among humans, but only coming in a distant second place.

There were several more, but those were the most fascinating to me, and thus, the ones I remember best.

 

[dad]

Good to see that list of urls sgain. But it will have absolutely no effect on deliberate ignorance.

Name any point in any of the urls and I will assassinate it forthwith.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Good to see that list of urls sgain. But it will have absolutely no effect on deliberate ignorance.

Well, to be sure, I was being passive-aggressive when I posted it twice.

I knew he would 100% ignore the posts. He has to -- they destroy his religion quite effectively.

 

[dad]

As much as individual roaches disgust me, whenever I encounter one in an unexpected way?

I have always admired how well adapted they are.

A number of years back, I read most of a book which chronicled several species' success, that have "hooked a ride" on the "human train of existence".

The lowly potato, which prior to humans domesticating this plucky plant, was rather uncommon. But by happenstance, this thing's "storage shelter for the winter" happens to contain nearly a complete balanced nutrient mix, for humans (if you eat the skin-- important trace elements in there).

The marijuana plant is another. Again, seemingly by happy accident, it has two things going for it-- a very fibrous stem, which is quite useful to humans for making textiles, and one of it's principle chemicals is so similar to a behavioral hormone humans produce in their own brains, that it can substitute for that same chemical. It has been a quite successful partnership, just going by the numbers.

The dog, and that's pretty obvious.

And finally? The cockroach--which has evolved a wee bit, to really thrive among human garbage. Just going by the total numbers, it's been estimated there are at least several hundred roaches per person on earth. At least. Roaches do not seem to be bothered by human destruction of other species' habitat, having moved right into our cities and towns, literally right under our feet. Only Rattus Rattus, is doing as well among humans, but only coming in a distant second place.

There were several more, but those were the most fascinating to me, and thus, the ones I remember best.

Nothing about wonderful created creatures or wonderful adaptations is unique to your religion.