Science or Religion?

[Ben Dhyan]

Yes, that Love that surpasses all knowledge (Ephesians, I think).

I believe that He loves SZ as if there were ONLY SZ to love. One day SZ may see this.

Well said samtonga.

 

[Dropship]

Science or Religion?

Perhaps Christianity is a "Superscience" that we know nothing about?
For example Jesus's 37 miracles fall into that category as they contain a whole bunch of stuff like the replication of matter (the loaves and fishes), levitation (walking on water), weather control (stilling the storm) etc.
One that blew peoples socks off was when he spit in the dust to make mud pies to plaster on a blind mans eyes, and the mud presumably became new eyeballs (that's "transmutation of matter") right there..

 

[Subduction Zone]

Perhaps Christianity is a "Superscience" that we know nothing about?
For example Jesus's 37 miracles fall into that category as they contain a whole bunch of stuff like the replication of matter (the loaves and fishes), levitation (walking on water), weather control (stilling the storm) etc.
One that blew peoples socks off was when he spit in the dust to make mud pies to plaster on a blind mans eyes, and the mud presumably became new eyeballs (that's "transmutation of matter") right there..

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Or it could be just a story.

 

[Dropship]

Or it could be just a story.

Nah, Jesus went on the road and strutted his stuff in front of thousands of eyewitnesses, heck he was almost as big as Elvis and the similarities are uncanny..-

"..the people all tried to touch Jesus, because power was coming from him" (Luke 6:19)

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nah, Jesus went on the road and strutted his stuff in front of thousands of eyewitnesses, heck he was almost as big as Elvis and the similarities are uncanny..-

"..the people all tried to touch Jesus, because power was coming from him" (Luke 6:19)
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Well since there are tales of Elvis never dying perhaps they are one and the same.

 

[Dropship]

Well since there are tales of Elvis never dying perhaps they are one and the same.

Could be..
Here's Elvis caught on goog streetview rocking in Torquay (England) in 2012-

 

[Subduction Zone]

Could be..
Here's Elvis caught on goog streetview rocking in Torquay (England) in 2012-

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LOL I love that Google blurred out his face. That tells us that he is for real. Google maps blurs out faces and license plates on cars and other data that could lead to identification of people.

 

[Dropship]

LOL I love that Google blurred out his face. That tells us that he is for real. Google maps blurs out faces and license plates on cars and other data that could lead to identification of people.

How about it Elv?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Perhaps Christianity is a "Superscience" that we know nothing about?
For example Jesus's 37 miracles fall into that category as they contain a whole bunch of stuff like the replication of matter (the loaves and fishes), levitation (walking on water), weather control (stilling the storm) etc.
One that blew peoples socks off was when he spit in the dust to make mud pies to plaster on a blind mans eyes, and the mud presumably became new eyeballs (that's "transmutation of matter") right there..

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I have an open mind, could be?

 

[rational experiences]

History memory of conscious human says the origin group is natural family was and is first.

Science then religious science both hypocrites is the teaching. Enforced and overthrow groups as group purpose against natural. Preaching only for self purpose.

Idolisation status.

So as we are natural and spiritual first of course natural history as man aware expressed information is then stated in religious pursuit.

Whose history said to cause reuniting of human life in social conditions.

Which is first just natural family with no self idolisation.

If you believe today you preach correct human spirituality.

So as just a natural human I observe reality as one self owning natural human family life to regard organisation status.

Who own false human preached history the sciences.

Which for some reason you all choose to ignore. Science and human scientific thesis is expressed by human consciousness who idolised themselves first in scientific status.

A human and a human theist.

And still today you ignore the human relevance that stated science was a hypocrite. As human life expressed.

As sex was the stated human sin.. any human body owned human.presence by human sex. To observe healthy if unhealthy human.

Unhealthy humans proved human science chosen...caused unhealthy life sacrifice and inherited life change by cause effect.

The science law mass the heavens owned any one single change as a whole mass. Science never owned natural mass. Basic commonsense.

If you idolise life sacrificed then I would own a human reason to challenge your thesis. Seeing human life was owned equally as a biological medical status.

 

[gnostic]

Perhaps Christianity is a "Superscience" that we know nothing about?

Good grief.

When a Christian make such absurd claim like this, it is clear that such a person don’t understand sciences at all.

Putting a prefix “super-“ to “science” is a fantasy, just like all fictions of the supernatural.

Just as supernatural don’t exist except in works of fiction, so is this even sillier “superscience” of yours.

No, Dropship. This is superscience is more pseudoscience or fairytale than science.

Science, which you seem to be ignoring, is not just knowledge, but knowledge that are demonstrably true, so anyone with the know-how, should be able to repeat the same test themselves, hence repeat the same experiments - empirical evidence are what verified a model as science.

So you talk of Jesus’ numerous miracles. If you really these miracles were science, then you and anyone else should be able to repeat the same miracles as Jesus did?

So can you heal people with diseases or disabilities, or bring someone back to life with the touch of your hand, every times?

Can you walk on water, calm storm, or levitate?

If you cannot, then the gospels aren’t science...then the gospels are merely stories, exaggerating Jesus’ abilities.

Adding “super” to science, would be like turning the gospels into comic books, and turning Jesus into a comic character like Superman.

 

[gnostic]

Nah, Jesus went on the road and strutted his stuff in front of thousands of eyewitnesses, heck he was almost as big as Elvis and the similarities are uncanny..-

"..the people all tried to touch Jesus, because power was coming from him" (Luke 6:19)

If that were true, then why aren’t there thousands of written accounts, contemporary to Jesus’ ministry?

Even the gospels were written decades later, Mark (gospel) some times in the late 60s or 70s, Matthew and Luke in the 80s, John in the 90s or even later.

Note that I am only these names - Mark, Matthew, Luke & John - as a matter of convenient, but the fact that we don’t know who wrote the gospels, but they weren’t written by eyewitnesses.

If there were so many as eyewitnesses, then why aren’t there any mention of Jesus, written in the 30s?

The oldest NT writings came from Paul, with oldest epistle dating to the late 40s, the Epistle to the Galatians. The other epistles of Paul were written in the 50s and 60s.

Paul even admitted that he never met Jesus, hence what he wrote weren’t eyewitness’ accounts of Jesus’ life. But his epistles are older than the gospel of Mark.

 

[paarsurrey]

Science or Religion?

+ both are useful in their respective domains. If one asks me, I have already
explained it in many of my posts in other threads, please. One could read them there, if one likes it, please. Right?

Regards

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Science or Religion?

+ both are useful in their respective domains. If one asks me, I have already
explained it in many of my posts in other threads, please. One could read them there, if one likes it, please. Right?

Regards

Though religion is more efficacious in bringing about realization of what and who one really is in the context of infinity and eternity.

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said: ↑
Science or Religion?

+ both are useful in their respective domains. If one asks me, I have already
explained it in many of my posts in other threads, please. One could read them there, if one likes it, please. Right?

Though religion is more efficacious in bringing about realization of what and who one really is in the context of infinity and eternity.

One agrees with me.

Regards