Scientists and Christianity...

[Surrealgurl]

A Christian (who doesn't believe in evolution) recently told me that there are scientists who are now admitting that "evolution don't happen", and that there are a lot of scientists who are turning to Christianity and the Bible.

Has anyone else heard about this? I thought scientists considered evolution a fact? Can anyone elaborate?

 

[Mr Spinkles]

No, this is creationist propoganda. Check out: http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articles/3541_project_steve_2_16_2003.asp

 

[Rex]

Christians can believe in evolution, God started it, would be the reason.

 

[Green Gaia]

There are Christians who believe in theistic evolution, and read the Biblical account of creation as a metaphor.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Yes, but scientists are not now starting to admit that "evolution doesn't happen". That is just propoganda.

 

[Ceridwen018]

First of all, I wouldn't take anyone too seriously who told me that "evolution don't happen", but I suppose that's just me.

 

[RomCat]

A dog will never become a cat.
And a cat will never become a dog.

 

[Storm]

A dog will never become a cat.
And a cat will never become a dog.

Of course not, because they evolved along different lines.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

A dog will never become a cat.
And a cat will never become a dog.

You realize that the Vatican's okay with evolution, right?

 

[Azakel]

A dog will never become a cat.
And a cat will never become a dog.

Well dah, that's not how evolution works.

 

[ChristineES]

A Christian (who doesn't believe in evolution) recently told me that there are scientists who are now admitting that "evolution don't happen", and that there are a lot of scientists who are turning to Christianity and the Bible.

Has anyone else heard about this? I thought scientists considered evolution a fact? Can anyone elaborate?

There are Christians who are scientists and Christians who believe in evolution. I know, I have met and spoke with many of them and also other theists who are not Christians who also believe in evolution. Lastly, evolution is one of very many sciences. I am not sure why it is the only science ever brought up.

 

[ayani]

it is true that some scientists who formerly agreed with evolution do turn to Biblical Creationism.

but as for numbers, i would expect the numbers would be on the small side. the vast majority of scientists do believe in evolution, and would not consider taking Genesis literally, or even looking to Genesis in the first place. apparently it does happen, though i'd want to see some statistics or personal testimonies from these individuals.

 

[Storm]

it is true that some scientists who formerly agreed with evolution do turn to Biblical Creationism.

but as for numbers, i would expect the numbers would be on the small side. the vast majority of scientists do believe in evolution, and would not consider taking Genesis literally, or even looking to Genesis in the first place. apparently it does happen, though i'd want to see some statistics or personal testimonies from these individuals.

Then you'll forgive us for not taking your word for it.

 

[Little Joe Gould]

I think either when a Christian goes out of his way to try and discredit advancements in science or a scientist goes out of his way to belittle religion is idiocy. Both of these aspects have their purposes; one is to better humanity through subjective spirituality and ethical framework; the other meant to better humanity through objective empirical research. I think anyone who believes there should be the smallest amount of friction between these two disciplines is practically a moron.

 

[Hospitaller]

i heard that its okay to believe in adaptation evolution as a Roman Catholic, its just the idea that we came from apes and that everything came from a cell that's the real bullcrap (no offense to anyone).

 

[Nepenthe]

A dog will never become a cat.
And a cat will never become a dog.

I should think not! If it did, evolution would be falsified.
I do now believe in the resurrection after seeing a 4.5 year old thread revived.

Lastly, evolution is one of very many sciences. I am not sure why it is the only science ever brought up.

Good point. Creationists do sometimes attack astronomy, geology, chemistry, physics, etc. when it challenges their misconception of the age of the earth. Dating techniques and the speed of light have been criticized by creationists to shoehorn their dogma into their propoganda.

But there's no question evolutionary biology is their favorite whipping boy.

 

[ChristineES]

Good point. Creationists do sometimes attack astronomy, geology, chemistry, physics, etc. when it challenges their misconception of the age of the earth. Dating techniques and the speed of light have been criticized by creationists to shoehorn their dogma into their propoganda.

I don't see it happening in this day and age. I learned about astronomy before I became a Christian and later, when I read the bible, I never found anything that contradicted what I learned. And don't throw some verse at me about the sun rising. People still go out in this day and age to watch "sunsets" and "sunrises" and I doubt very many people truly believes the sun is actually rises or sets- even I didn't at age 4. The Bible was never intended to be a science book and neither is it against science.

 

[logician]

i heard that its okay to believe in adaptation evolution as a Roman Catholic, its just the idea that we came from apes and that everything came from a cell that's the real bullcrap (no offense to anyone).

Well, we and apes came from a common ancestor, and we all evolved from unicellular life.

And that ain't bullcrap.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

i heard that its okay to believe in adaptation evolution as a Roman Catholic, its just the idea that we came from apes and that everything came from a cell that's the real bullcrap (no offense to anyone).

AFAIK, the position of the Church is that the only point of doctrine in this whole debate is that all humanity descended from an original pair of humans, and apart from that, they're content to leave the matter of how life arose, including us, up to science.

 

[Enoch07]

AFAIK, the position of the Church is that the only point of doctrine in this whole debate is that all humanity descended from an original pair of humans, and apart from that, they're content to leave the matter of how life arose, including us, up to science.

Not all of humanity came from Adam and Eve. In case you have not noticed there are many different races all with unique traits. All races of humans was made on the 6th day of creation, not just Adams. Adam and Eve's story is special because it is that particular genealogy that eventually leads us to Jesus, which is why they started in Eden. You can trace back Jesus genealogy as proof of that. Most of us are from one of the races that started outside of Eden.